Stop Crying Rape

[Winchester]

That's the thing though they dont. Google rape culture and do some research. There's a reason these numbers are so high. Society encourages a certain mindset from males and in most circles this mindset is cultivated and grown.

everyone knows the scary back alley rape is wrong. The biggest issue is the no means no sexual assaults which are perpetrated by all American Johnnies in every American town

 

 

Pop psychology excrement used to deny the fact that people are predators. This is why predators succeed frequently: Because morons pretend it's ignorance.

 

I'm willing to entertain the notion that thoughtlessness is a cause of some evil actions.

 

"Rape culture" is another fuzzy term used to sell courses to the naive. When people realize they can't get away with a behavior, they pretend to have not understood that said behavior was unacceptable. And the idiots then declare that we educated the evil out of someone. It's possible that turning a mirror on a person and letting them see what they are ends the delusion, but that's merely the knowledge they already possessed overwhelming their capacity for self-deception.

 

I remember in school a couple of guys in class saying that the way some women dressed was "asking for it". I challenged them. After class, one of them asked why I was "fronting" him. After a few minutes of not backing down and mocking the stupid term "fronting" in addition to his excuses for his behavior, he backed down. Know why he was angry? Because he knew he was lying when he said what he said. He knew it was BS. He didn't believe a word of it, and being confronted with it challenged the crap he'd built up around him. He was a predator, he knew it, and he didn't like it being exposed. If there is a rape culture, it is not comparable to some veil of ignorance, but more so to a duck blind. It is camouflage. 

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

I'm not debating that rape doesn't happen, I'm not debating the seriousness of rape, I'm not debating that many rapes go un reported for whatever reasons. Aren't we debating the o.p which i read as to many women clogging up the system in universities claiming they where raped after a night out on the grog when it was actually consent although perhaps coerced in whatever manner, and how that doesn't constitute as rape and the people crying wolf before there is actually a wolf can shut down peoples eyes and ears as to a real cry of wolf when there is an actual wolf. Something like that anyhow. :)

 

Jesus iz LORD.

Edited January 17, 2014 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye

[Semper Catholic]

I'm not debating that rape doesn't happen, I'm not debating the seriousness of rape, I'm not debating that many rapes go un reported for whatever reasons. Aren't we debating the o.p which i read as to many women clogging up the system in universities claiming they where raped after a night out on the grog when it was actually consent although perhaps coerced in whatever manner, and how that doesn't constitute as rape and the people crying wolf before there is actually a wolf can shut down peoples eyes and ears as to a real cry of wolf when there is an actual wolf. Something like that anyhow. :)

Jesus iz LORD.

I was unaware of all the false rape cases clogging up university systems. Must be a big problem.

It's definitely not the other way around though. Cops always take rape cases extremely seriously, and the victims are always handled appropriately. Always.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

I was unaware of all the false rape cases clogging up university systems. Must be a big problem.

It's definitely not the other way around though. Cops always take rape cases extremely seriously, and the victims are always handled appropriately. Always.

 

I said that also about the cops dealing with all alleged rape cases seriously. And if the police don't then that is sad and needs a big public protest.

Edited January 17, 2014 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye

[mortify ii]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/05/02/false-rape-accusations-may-be-more-common-than-thought/

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/05/02/false-rape-accusations-may-be-more-common-than-thought/

 

 

I can't click on nothing mort :( not my com. When i get my new com though i will go click crazy from my lack of clicking. :)

[mortify ii]

Fyi above article was written by a feminist, and she admits false accusations are common. Up to 25% accusations are false, and that's a conservative number, could be up to 40%. Now if your an innocent man accused of this crime you're pretty much screwed.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

I wonder if there has been an increase of this crime since the popularisation of pornography and sexual advertising and other sexualised media and if most cases are lets say offender and offended under the age of 26, in both the case of actual rape and falsified rape and as to whether the falsified rape is a pecking order pop underground thing to see how many people you can get into trouble that have done nothing wrong. Very sad anyway if that persons stat of 1 in 6 adult women in the states have encountered being raped at least once, or is that a world wide average and not a stat on the states. And stats kind of lie anyhow, a real stat of the states would need at lest one tenth of the population to take a census on the matter and the stats coming from all walks of life and states.

Edited January 17, 2014 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

 It would probably be a 100 million dollar project and that is why no one does it perhaps to get a real significant statistic. Though the smaller stat gatherings are ok there not really good though and can be misleading, that's my opinion anyway.

[CatherineM]

Now if your an innocent man accused of this crime you're pretty much screwed.

That also goes for an innocent man in a domestic violence case or a priest in a child abuse case. They all have to prove their innocence, and still would be considered guilty.

[CatherineM]

We've got a guy attacking women in a rich neighborhood here. A cop being interviewed on tv said that women shouldn't be walking down the alleys. Instead of being thanked for informing the public there is a nut loose attacking women walking alone in alleys, he was attacked for blaming the victims. He wasn't saying if you walk down dark alleys you deserve to be attacked, he was trying to tell women how to be safe.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

That also goes for an innocent man in a domestic violence case or a priest in a child abuse case. They all have to prove their innocence, and still would be considered guilty.

 

I think mort is serious also about the gravity of this matter and he is not saying lets let everyone off scot free for the sake of the innocent men who have been falsely accused. This is an exercise in public opinion about the recognition that not everyone is guilty of a crime they are accused of and possible recognition that there is such a thing as a minority report that gets bogged down with the majorities stampede.

[BG45]

Just for the record, if consent is in any way impaired, say by the consumption of alcohol, an individual is incapable of giving proper consent and therefore, technically, intercourse is rape.

[PhuturePriest]

Just for the record, if consent is in any way impaired, say by the consumption of alcohol, an individual is incapable of giving proper consent and therefore, technically, intercourse is rape.

 

Of course. It's different if both people are equally drunk (The girl being hammered and the guy being slightly tipsy is obviously way different than both of them being tipsy or hammered), but I don't think anyone would disagree the situation which you describe (An unfortunately all-too-common situation) is rape.

[Selah]

If you do not have consent, if she does not say yes 100%, it is rape. If she says yes and then in the middle says no, and you keep going, it is rape.

 

Why is that such a difficult concept?

 

If you take advantage of a drunk girl, it's rape

 

If at any time the girl says no, and he doesn't listen, IT. IS RAPE.