NotreDame Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 You're both tiresome. Now go on my thread and tell me how cool I'll look in my kilt. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 As for what you said, I have no doubt there are tons of jobs in the coal industry. There are also thousands of jobs that would be lost if we had our dream and shut down Planned Parenthood, too. I'm not saying coal mining and abortion are on the same level, but it's the same principal: You can't not shut an industry down simply because jobs will be lost. . . . No, coal mining and abortion are not on the same level, as abortion, unlike coal mining or other such industries, is the direct deliberate taking of an innocent human life (in other words, murder). The government shouldn't have the power to shut down businesses willy-nilly unless they are engaging in blatantly unlawful activity such as murder, theft, fraud, etc. A central issue here, which everyone seems to be ignoring, is how we've granted unelected federal bureaucracies such as the EPA the power to shut down whatever plants or businesses it sees fit based on its own determinations of what is "bad for the earth" - and allowing it to redefine gasses such as CO2 as "pollutants." Thus, the EPA is given essentially legislative powers, which in the Constitution belong solely to Congress, and not to the president, or to presidentially-elected bodies. Such decisions should belong to Congress, and be governed by the normal legislative process decribed in the Constitution, as befits a democratic republic. We've granted far to much power to unelected federal bureaucracies - such as the EPA, IRS, NSA, etc,m which are open to much abuse (and has in fact been much abused), and these bodies ought to be abolished. From a somewhat different angle but here's a good piece from Forbes on the EPA regulations and coal plants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 That's why we support development of natural gas reserves :D That's why I make sure to eat lots of beans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecilia Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 There is not much division in Australia on this topic. It is quite common to be pro-life and pro-environment without being bothered for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) There is not much division in Australia on this topic. It is quite common to be pro-life and pro-environment without being bothered for it. Well, were the people in the US who, like Socrates, were the most vocal their supposed deep and reverential respect for human life actually intellectually consistent theb that would be the norm. Edited January 28, 2014 by Hasan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 Well, were the people in the US who, like Socrates, were actually intellectually consistent in their supposed deep and reverential respect for human life then that would be the norm. Pretend like I don't exist, why don't you. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotreDame Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I'm pro-life and pro-environment. However, I am anti supporting-socialist-policies-in-the-name-of-unproven-malthusian-theories-promoted-using-moral-attacks-and-scare-tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartermia Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 CO2 is not a pollutant. We are polluting the earth by breathing if that is what you are saying. Let's just go plant some more trees so this whole issue will be resolved. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotreDame Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 CO2 is not a pollutant. We are polluting the earth by breathing if that is what you are saying. Let's just go plant some more trees so this whole issue will be resolved. :P No need to plant trees. Just buy some carbon offsets like Al Gore and Leo Dicaprio do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 CO2 is not a pollutant. We are polluting the earth by breathing if that is what you are saying. Let's just go plant some more trees so this whole issue will be resolved. :P That's difficult to do when the rain forest is being chopped down at astronomical speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartermia Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I was going to bring up the rain forest but I decided not to. I didn't want to complicate things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 I was going to bring up the rain forest but I decided not to. I didn't want to complicate things. Life's a sad story. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 CO2 is not a pollutant. We are polluting the earth by breathing if that is what you are saying. Let's just go plant some more trees so this whole issue will be resolved. :P Thats right. Breathing is causing all of our problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartermia Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Yes, yes it is. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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