GeorgiiMichael Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 It's winter. Where I live I WALK on water, not swim in it. (The water is frozen.) Lately, my "swimwear" has consisted of snow boots, two layers of pantaloons, several layers on top covered by a long thick coat that goes past my knees. I wear this along with gloves and a hat. A scarf covers most of my face. I am so modest I make a burkha look revealing. If I'm lucky it may be up to 10 degrees today. Still, I have no worries that my outdoor gear will inspire any lustful thoughts in men I meet. Gotta get out today so I can stock up on hand sanitizer. ;) Your immodesty is appalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 It is a conceit of secular liberals that Muslim women who wear the hijab do so because they are forced to, or because they are ashamed of themselves. They have never read the Quran, never set foot in a mosque, never spoken to a hijabi. But they know the meaning of the hijab. In this country a woman's expression of religious devotion is not a good ruler by which to judge her self-confidence or independence. But there's a difference between women electing to veil and being forced to by civil law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) So? There is no such law in this country. Or in Australia, which is where the linked store is located. The store's tagline suggests their swimsuits will provide "freedom, flexibility and confidence." I somehow doubt their models or their customers are oppressed women. There are 2 states that legally require women to veil: Saudi Arabia and Iran. Several Muslim countries ban the practice. In many, many places the act of wearing a veil is a political act. A woman who does so is exercising both her freedom of speech and her freedom of religion -- often courageously, given the political context. So ... one cannot look at a veiled woman, or a woman in a swimsuit like those pictured above, and decide that 1. she lacks self-direction and 2. her veil is a symbol of her oppression. In many instances the reality is quite the opposite. Edited January 9, 2014 by Lilllabettt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazeingstar Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 It is a conceit of secular liberals that Muslim women who wear the hijab do so because they are forced to, or because they are ashamed of themselves. They have never read the Quran, never set foot in a mosque, never spoken to a hijabi. But they know the meaning of the hijab. In this country a woman's expression of religious devotion is not a good ruler by which to judge her self-confidence or independence. The hoods are for religious purposes Thanks Balista. I had a friend in college, a Moslem from Egypt, who was very strict and had to go pray 5 times a day. However, in many places anything from the hajib to a full burqua are NOT a woman's choice. We're fortunate here in America that woman can choose to wear a headdress if they wish, but in most countries this is not an option, even for non-moslem women. If it was *truly* about modesty and not about control, not wearing one would be against social norms, not punishable by death. And yes, I know the hoods are for religious purposes. I was commenting on how the non-hooded suit should be mainstream for physical protection from the sun and good care of your body (if you're white). Covering up is just smart. The hoods would do very little for sun protection and may be cumbersome and be ill fitting, (everone's head shape and necks are different) that's my comment on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Sunscreen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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