NotreDame Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 ...to evaluate Wuerl you need to evaluate how he and his organization dealt with the issue.... In the context of doing so, what the priest did is irrelevant, except in evaluating the Cardinal and the ADW's response. Au contraire, "what the priest did" is extremely relevant, Re-read my post. You are Au-contrairing something I never said. And I feel the same way about evaluating pontifical appointments in terms of gaining some sense of broader "meaning" on the direction of the Church. But evaluating these guys as individuals, especially when you have to deal them and their very large and far-reaching organizations and authority, can be important because their decisions affect a lot of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 It's not an issue with Canon 915 itself, it's the interpretation of Canon 915, specifically what really counts as a grave enough matter. That's where the issue lies, not whether or not Canon 915 is good. Hmm, maybe it's also an issue with the application of Canon 915. I know Wuerl argues that in the case of pro-choice politicians, withholding communion doesn't "work" to change their hearts. I think he'd also draw a distinction between a bishop deciding to withhold communion and a bishop urging a person to not approach communion unless he or she is properly disposed. I also think he might be in favor of withholding communion from someone whom he had already spoken to privately and urged him or her not to receive...but even then, given his actions with that one priest, I still think he really values a person's own responsibility for the state of their soul, and would save publicly denying a person communion for the gravest of cases. I saw this and thought it might please you. I don't know if you know JReducation on CAF? He's a very prominent poster who is a Franciscan Brother, and he's a really wise and insightful man. He made this post on a thread about this on CAF: Is it always necessary to look for a political or a hidden motive behind everything that our Church does? At what point do we cease to be Catholic? Part of being a member of a family is not just biology and adoption. The most important part of being a member of a family is love and trust. If there is an absence of love and trust, if family members always suspect that other members have some scheme up their sleeves or if family members knowing that every human being is different can't apply this same rule to their own and allow them be different, how does such a unit constitute a family? __________________ Fraternally, Br. JR, FFV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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