SNJM Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Hi there to all you lovely discerners! As some of you may know, I have my certification in Spiritual Direction. I'd like to put together a list of different charisms for my clients in discernment. I'd like to include a brief description or specific words that might draw a person to one charism/spirituality over another. I thought coming here would be a great resource. I'd love your thoughts and input. I'm going to list what I have, but I know there are literally hundreds. I'm trying to keep it to the top 15 (if possible). ANYTHING you might be able to offer would be so helpful! God's blessings on you all! Thank you! Rose This is the list I have so far: Benedictine Carmelite Dominican Franciscan Contemplative (within the specific charism, but I do think it's important to see the difference between contemplative/apostolic spirituality) Ignatian Marian Augustine Cistercian Sacred Heart Divine Mercy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserere55 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Each Order and individual congregation has its own Charisms. Here are some from communities that I have either been in or have looked into: Apostolic Eucharistic Evangelical Ecclesial Penitential Reparatory Eremitical Hospitality Gratitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Here is what I think when I see these words: Benedictine: balance, liturgyCarmelite: semi-eremitic, penanceDominican: study, preaching, theologyFranciscan: joy, simplicity, povertyContemplative (within the specific charism, but I do think it's important to see the difference between contemplative/apostolic spirituality): prayer, silenceIgnatian: military [yeah, thats what comes to mind!], study, theology, defense of the faithMarian: [too much here]Augustine: [i have no associations with this, because i know only one Augustinian community, and they're... not typical]Cistercian: work on the land, strict, balance, silence ["hardcore Benedictines" is actually what comes to mind!]Sacred Heart: [too much here]Divine Mercy: [too much here] You forgot Carthusians: solitude, desert, silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNJM Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 Thanks! These answers are helpful! Anything anyone can offer is helpful!!!!! God bless your generosity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToJesusMyHeart Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Wait, I thought charism and spirituality are two distinct qualities? A charism and a spirituality are not the same thing. Benedictine, Dominican, Carmelite, Franciscan, etc. are not charisms; they are spiritualities. The Sisters of Life have the charism of Life: "To protect and enhance the sacredness of every human life" and the spirituality of St. Augustine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaD2006 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 ToJesusMyHeart is right .... SNJM you listed primarily spiritualities. Although -- contemplative is a characteristic, not a spirituality. And I am not 100% sure if I would call Sacred Heart / Divine Mercy spiritualities (Marian -- kind of, but all the other ones listed are based on the spirituality of a particular founder). SNJM ... maybe the school where you got your certification can help you get that list together and understand the difference? I know many programs include a general course on spiritualities as part of the program. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4LoveofJMJ Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 What is the spirituality of St. Augustine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToJesusMyHeart Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 What is the spirituality of St. Augustine? Augustinian? You should check out his Rule of Life: http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/ruleaug.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNJM Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 Thanks everybody! I do have a good list, but not necessarily geared for those in discernment and I was hoping I would get some feedback from those in actual discernment, experiencing the different spiritualities and charisms on their own. Technically, some of what I mentioned are indeed devotions (Sacred Heart, Divine Mercy being two) and while charism and spirituality are technically two different things they can indeed meld. One definition I have (which comes from a long Greek definition) says: '...it is a theological term for the extraordinary graces given to individual Christians for the good of others." So, while the Sisters of Life have that definite "charism" of caring for life, I am sure there is a specific "spirituality" they follow and embrace. A better example would be a Benedictine living cloistered life. Through the Rule of Benedict, hospitality is important. The community, through the foundress(es) have determined they have the charism to welcome people of all walks of life and offer spiritual direction. This would be a natural blending of a spirituality and a charism. I'm sorry if I did not make this more clear. I am hoping that I can just get some natural and free expressions from some of you regarding these topics. Any thoughts, words (like Curiousing did) are so helpful! Please don't panic, I'm not going to hand out an "official" document; I'm going to use some of this for reflection and introspection for some of my clients. Thank you again, God bless you! Rose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserere55 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Dear SNJM, You are so humble and so gracious.......... Charisms are gifts inspired by the Holy Spirit that Founders of Orders, foundresses of congregations and any person living a devout life gives to the Church and the world. Spiritualty and charism are not necessarily mutually exclusive terms. A spirituality is made up of one or more (maybe several charisms.) Just look at Saints and the Founders of the Orders, and ask what have they left as a legacy for the Church and for their followers? St, Francis was humble (humility) he lived the life of the poor (poverty) he loved the church (ecclesial), he lived the Gospel values in an extra special way, (evangelical), etc. There can be many charisms for each Saint or each Order. Although Divine Mercy is a devotion, showing mercy or being merciful is a charism. What does the Sacred Heart devotion inspire its followers with? Love. Charity, love of God and Neighbor, can be charisms. Marian, meaning a special devotion to Our Lady, under any of her numerous titles, is a charism. Have fun making your list, start with the gifts and fruits of the Holy Spirit and branch out from there. This is a great idea for someone who spiritually directs others. May I borrow this idea? I would love to make a list. God bless!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNJM Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 Absolutely! I share EVERYTHING! It drives me crazy when someone has a great resource and won't share. Please use whatever may be helpful to you! God bless! Rose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresaThoma Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 It does look like you have spiritualities not really charisms. For example both the Nashville Dominicans Hawthorne Dominicans have a Dominican spirituality. However they have different charisms and those charisms are expressed in their apostolates. In my opinion in discernment it is important to figure out what spirituality attracts you and then look at the charisms within that spirituality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I think we need definitions. What is a "spirituality"? What is a "charism"? What is an "apostolate"? And how are all these things different? How are they mutually influential? I'm not trying to hijack your thread, SNJM, just to get clarity in a place I think people are asking for it. But if this would be better worked out in a different thread so that you can get an answer to your original question without too much interference in between, just say so and I'll move it elsewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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