graciandelamadrededios Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 The Hermitage of the Sacred Heart Recreation Room The Inner Courtyard The Calvary on the Inner Courtyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graciandelamadrededios Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 Front of the Chapel Chapel Courtyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graciandelamadrededios Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 What a lot of clothing! - and great pics! Thank you very much for sharing I'm glad you like it! More to come! Hopefully, when the English Translations is done. We can post the prayers and customs used during the time of St. Therese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbTherese Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 What wonderful and amazing pics! I see too on the refectory tables the "monastic bowls" that gave me such a fright at first when I was in monastic life. We used to drink out of them - and then wash our cutlery in them at the end of a meal. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graciandelamadrededios Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 I agree, the photos are just amazing and Lisieux Carmel is now a museum. I love the photos of the cell, choir and refectory above everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiquitunga Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Winter stocking in wool and summer in linen. Attached behind the knees. Belt to attach the stockings behind the knee Didn't the stockings which St. Teresa said should be worn for decency's sake (to cover the legs) open at the foot? like this one, http://www.sanjosedeavila.es/galeria.php#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/14/ or this Were St. Therese's stockings like this? or did they cover the foot too? Maybe some Carmels in very cold damp places like Lisieux wore stockings over their feet out of necessity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graciandelamadrededios Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) Didn't the stockings which St. Teresa said should be worn for decency's sake (to cover the legs) open at the foot? like this one, http://www.sanjosedeavila.es/galeria.php#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/14/ or this Were St. Therese's stockings like this? or did they cover the foot too? Maybe some Carmels in very cold damp places like Lisieux wore stockings over their feet out of necessity. Hi Chiqui, What is the title of this book where you got this page from? The Nuns is wearing the Spanish Style habit. The Rule of Carmel (Rule No. 10) stipulates: "Necessity has no law." On the Constitutions of St. Teresa, it says that stocking should be worn but it did not specifically say if the stocking is open at the toes or closed. Further, if you look into the alpargates that I posted, the toes are not exposed so the stocking that is paired with it should be closed as well. Edited November 20, 2013 by graciandelamadrededios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiquitunga Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Thanks Gracian! Yes, I did notice St. Therese's alpargatas were closed-toe, interesting. I believe the Kirk Edge UK Carmel has alpargatas like that too, or at least the one nun here, http://www.flickr.com/photos/catholicism/3984318061/lightbox/ The little booklet the image is from is this, http://www.amazon.com/The-Monastery-Incarnation-Avila/dp/B0027CVNCS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1384983294&sr=8-4&keywords=%22monastery+of+the+incarnation I found it really cheap once. It comes up every now and then. There's a new version of it too, which a friend of mine bought in Avila, just slightly different pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graciandelamadrededios Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 Thanks Gracian! Yes, I did notice St. Therese's alpargatas were closed-toe, interesting. I believe the Kirk Edge UK Carmel has alpargatas like that too, or at least the one nun here, http://www.flickr.com/photos/catholicism/3984318061/lightbox/ The little booklet the image is from is this, http://www.amazon.com/The-Monastery-Incarnation-Avila/dp/B0027CVNCS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1384983294&sr=8-4&keywords=%22monastery+of+the+incarnation I found it really cheap once. It comes up every now and then. There's a new version of it too, which a friend of mine bought in Avila, just slightly different pictures. Hi Chiqui, I wrote once to Discalced Carmelite Nuns of San Jose in Avila and they sent me a booklet. I am not sure if that photo is on it. I have to find that booklet somewhere tucked in my storage. Do you think they produced a book or booklet about the 450 foundation of the their monastery? or is it the birth of St. Teresa. Not sure here. George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiquitunga Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Hi Chiqui, I wrote once to Discalced Carmelite Nuns of San Jose in Avila and they sent me a booklet. I am not sure if that photo is on it. I have to find that booklet somewhere tucked in my storage. Do you think they produced a book or booklet about the 450 foundation of the their monastery? or is it the birth of St. Teresa. Not sure here. George The booklet is from the Incarnation, although they could have sent you that one as well. I would guess San Jose would have produced some kind of booklet for their 450th anniversary in 2012. That that website was created for it at least. Yes, the 450th anniversary was for the foundation of the monastery. The 500th anniversary of the birth of St. Teresa is in 2015. Here's the site for that, http://www.paravosnaci.com/ :like: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graciandelamadrededios Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 The booklet is from the Incarnation, although they could have sent you that one as well. I would guess San Jose would have produced some kind of booklet for their 450th anniversary in 2012. That that website was created for it at least. Yes, the 450th anniversary was for the foundation of the monastery. The 500th anniversary of the birth of St. Teresa is in 2015. Here's the site for that, http://www.paravosnaci.com/ :like: Thanks Chiqui! I guess the Avila Monastery is the Incarnation and the Avila (San Jose) is the first monastery of the reform. I hope I can get a copy of the 450 book. Gracian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pia Jesu Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Incredible photos...thank you for sharing them! Gracian & Chiqui, I remember reading an Irish priest's comment that he was "horrified at what had been done to the lovely old chapel" of the Carmel of Lisieux. What are your thoughts on this? Surely there were much needed renovations of the old buildings, but did the architect go too far (for the sake of a modern aesthetic)? I also remember reading that there was no running water in the nuns' cells during the time of St. Therese...and that the 2008 completion (of the the remodeling) brought a half-dozen new vocations to their doorstep--after not having a candidate enter for 10 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiquitunga Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 yes, I believe the renovations went too far... The Chapel a gate with that wooden plank theme on the outside as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noemi Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Wow, these photos are amazing! Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graciandelamadrededios Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 yes, I believe the renovations went too far... a gate with that wooden plank theme on the outside as well I love simple chapels and one of those I love are in Carmelite Monasteries in Poland. But this new chapel of Lisieux is too simple - its like a Protestant Chapel (I mean no offense to Protestants here, just my observation). Please see photos of Carmelite Monastery Chapel in Poland: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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