Wal-mart Defends Controversial Food Drive For Employees

[tinytherese]

 

Wal-Mart has created a model which allows for them to sell goods at low prices and benefit many.  Nobody has to work at Wal-Mart, and those who do don't have to stay there for ever.  What Wal-Mart "should" pay is what the market will bear.  We do the same thing.  We look for the lowest price--not the highest price.

 

 

 

 

Jobs are hard to come by these days. Some don't have any other job options than to work at Walmart and may have to work there longer than expected because of the difficulty of finding a job elsewhere.

[PhuturePriest]

Im not even going to answer this. It has been addressed so many times in the thread however I understand that giving people a "humane wage" automatically makes members in this thread think (for some reason...) that I mean EQUAL across the board. Thats not it at all.

 

Start reading what Im saying.

 

The Federal minimum wage is $7.25/hr and hasnt been changed for 6 years. It should be increased to help keep up with inflation. 

 

You know, $7.25 an hour would be a killing if we stopped relying on something as useless as paper as a currency and went back to the Gold Standard...

[southern california guy]

Whelp, most of the people who are underpaid from Walmart and other places still make enough to survive simply because they are given our tax dollars! Does everyone like that solution more than raising their wage? The American people pick up Walmarts slack and pay their workers the difference.

 

This is actually true.  And it is true that low income earner's are eligible for welfare.

 

Here is a good link on the subject (Whether you agree with the conclusion or not) :  How McDonald's and Wal-Mart Became Welfare Queens

[4588686]

You know, $7.25 an hour would be a killing if we stopped relying on something as useless as paper as a currency and went back to the Gold Standard...

 

 

Right.  Because, unlike paper with funny symbols on it, shiny metal is inherently valuable.  

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

the world poverty line is about $10 australian dollars a week. $7.25 U.S. an hour is rich as hell and the u.s.a is cheap as chips. I don't think more money is the solution.

[PhuturePriest]

Right.  Because, unlike paper with funny symbols on it, shiny metal is inherently valuable.  

 

I knew you'd reply to my post. :love:

[4588686]

I knew you'd reply to my post. :love:

 

 

Like laying a slice of cake in front of a fat kid.  

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

I think in the future It will be all carded and electronic one day, and the poor will only get food and clothing donations and no cash from passers by, like people walkign to the shops with them. Though money in a sense will still exist it won't be in the form of a physical transaction. EFTPOS, CREDIT and DEBIT cards. If you loose them you just go on the net and make the applied transaction from there, the shops will have access to the net also for such dilemmas .

Edited December 1, 2013 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye

[Winchester]

Right.  Because, unlike paper with funny symbols on it, shiny metal is inherently valuable.  

Tobacco leaves, and pelts also served as money at various periods. What we have now is just a means of the government and banks enriching themselves through currency debasement. All a gold standard does is hamper that power. Hence the opposition to it from those who benefit from control of the money supply. 

Edited December 1, 2013 by Winchester

[4588686]

All a gold standard does is hamper that power. 

 

 

How exactly does it do that?

[NotreDame]

You are right. I live in Escondido, in San Diego county. I bought a foreclosure, and my interest rate is low so we pay less per month than people pay for a one bedroom apartment. The higher cost of living here is housing. We have a subtropical climate here -- it doesn't get too hot or cold -- so our electric bill averages $25/month. And I work for "waste management". I am basically a garbage man.

Still you drive around town and you will see furniture stores out of business because of the Furniture Warehouse, that came into town, and other local businesses that were put out of business by Lowe's and Home Depot.

 

Umm... You still aren't doing much for your credibility. 

 

My parents are right down the road and their electric bill is $500/month in the summer (thanks to PG&E's tiered pricing.)  The best I could do was in the Silicon Valley (much more temperate than Escondido's climate.)  There I could get my first floor one-bedroom apt's energy bill down to the $50's, with no AC and gas heating.  So how exactly are you getting your at $25? 

[southern california guy]

Umm... You still aren't doing much for your credibility. 

 

My parents are right down the road and their electric bill is $500/month in the summer (thanks to PG&E's tiered pricing.)  The best I could do was in the Silicon Valley (much more temperate than Escondido's climate.)  There I could get my first floor one-bedroom apt's energy bill down to the $50's, with no AC and gas heating.  So how exactly are you getting your at $25? 

 

Our electric provider is SDG&E (San Diego Gas and Electric).  I can see $50/month if you run a/c or heat -- but I don't do either.  Check out the weather forecast for San Diego.  We are averaging about 75 F, during the day, and 55 F, at night.

 

It is curious, I had a higher electric bill when I lived in Northern California (Woodland) than I do down here.  $500/month sounds absolutely outrageous.  Are they running heat and a/c all day long -- with all of their windows open???  Are they growing marijuana??  I think that it is time that they switched to solar.  Or if they are in an apartment I would be paranoid that some of their neighbors have tapped into their electricity.

 

Maybe I am figuring my electric bill a little low.  I did go over $100 last December.  But here is my most recent bill -- just in case you need a little proof.

 

[southern california guy]

Umm... You still aren't doing much for your credibility. 

 

My parents are right down the road and their electric bill is $500/month in the summer (thanks to PG&E's tiered pricing.)  The best I could do was in the Silicon Valley (much more temperate than Escondido's climate.)  There I could get my first floor one-bedroom apt's energy bill down to the $50's, with no AC and gas heating.  So how exactly are you getting your at $25? 

 

The point that I was trying to make is that the cost of living isn't necessarily lower in lower paid parts of the country.  I'm guessing that the electric bill is higher -- because of heating costs.  And food has to be trucked in from warmer parts of the country -- so it is also more expensive.  Admittedly my mortgage would be sky high if I had bought at the top of the market -- but I didn't because the banks went wildly out of control, and were later bailed out by our brilliant government...

 

It seems that the direction our country is headed in is resulting in a destruction of the middle class.

[NotreDame]

Wow, never in my life have I even seen an electric bill that low, even in the bay area with similar temperate conditions.  No idea how you get that.  Any tips?  My parents are further up the 15 freeway where it's hotter.  They are older, retired and need to run the AC all day.  Because of CA's tiered pricing, energy bills go up exponentially, hence the $500 on hotter months.   

[Winchester]

How exactly does it do that?

The government is not permitted to simply print unbacked notes. Assuming it's a real gold standard, and not some fractional reserve nonsense. This is why the ruling class doesn't like the gold standard. It's also why the bankers dislike it.

 

You'll find plenty defending fiat currency, too. When specie money was common, the means of inflation was debasement. When notes were issued, the means of inflation was fractional reserve. Now money is created with a printing press or a the push of a button (you spend the same dollar that's earning interest in your checking account). Supply and demand applies to every commodity. You might not like his philosophy, but Murray Rothbard's history of money and banking in the United States is a good book.