blazeingstar Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 It wouldn't work as a government rating like the FDA, but potentially it could work as a private rating organization, or as a social media rating system. It'd be railroaded as a political tool soon enough, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share Posted November 15, 2013 :sos: Just forget I asked Blazingstar rofl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazeingstar Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 :sos: Just forget I asked Blazingstar rofl You need commas in that sentence. How did you forget you asked me, already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia13 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) I read fat, saturated fat, calories, protein, carbs, fiber, sugar, calcium, organic, caffeine free/decaff, organic, already cooked, cook thoroughly, vegan (in the case of the best chewy cookies around), and I do alter my actions at least occasionally based on this information, though I rarely spend the money on organic. You posted excerpts in the original article that I disagree with. Dots and total numbers that mix health information will hide parts of what a balanced diet is really like if they completely replace the current system. I think that for people to care enough about social justice labels, you have to make better choices affordable or change the legal/economic environment of agribusiness. Sure I want the rainforest to grow and fish to live, but I also want to include plant matter in my diet. It's like organic. I would love to eat organic, but that is for rich people, health nut$, and people with medical reasons to truly need to eat organic, not people like me. Edited November 15, 2013 by Light and Truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I kan haz chezbrgr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia13 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I kan haz chezbrgr? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 What about GMOs? Good God, I want to know if there are GMOs!!! I read fat, saturated fat, calories, protein, carbs, fiber, sugar, calcium, organic, caffeine free/decaff, organic, already cooked, cook thoroughly, vegan (in the case of the best chewy cookies around), and I do alter my actions at least occasionally based on this information, though I rarely spend the money on organic. You posted excerpts in the original article that I disagree with. Dots and total numbers that mix health information will hide parts of what a balanced diet is really like if they completely replace the current system. I think that for people to care enough about social justice labels, you have to make better choices affordable or change the legal/economic environment of agribusiness. Sure I want the rainforest to grow and fish to live, but I also want to include plant matter in my diet. It's like organic. I would love to eat organic, but that is for rich people, health nut$, and people with medical reasons to truly need to eat organic, not people like me. I agree. I think another labeling system will just turn into another way to push a new, totally wack FDA dietary standard on the American public. What we need is (1) a return to culturally based historic foodways, (2) mass public education in these foodways, and (3) a total, grassroots-generated destruction of demand for highly processed food products. As for sustainable/fairtrade/organic: I eat pretty strictly organic, although "how strict" depends on what's available where I live. I am a dirt-po' grad student, so if I can do it, chances are you can, too. There are all kinds of ways to get "organic" (maybe not certified by the government, but hey, even better...) food cheap. For example, I participate in a program sponsored by my state's Department of Natural Resources that hooks me up with hunters who bring me free deer meat. That's about as "organic" as it comes. Before I lived in this state, I bought local, naturally raised, 100% grassfed beef on the hoof. This required investment in a small chest freezer, but it got me organic beef for less than $3 a pound, and a lot of that was steaks and roasts. Organic vegetables, believe it or not, are pretty damn cheap at Wal-Mart. Yeah, I'd rather buy them at the Farmer's Market, but they are 5 times the price there, and I'm po'. Organic dry goods cost a fortune at my local natural foods stores (where I do buy other things that they don't put a ginormous mark-up on), so I buy these online and have them shipped. I wait till I need a bunch of things, so I always buy enough to make the shipping free. If you WANT to buy organic, L&T, chances are, you can. You just have to know how to "work the system"! ;-) Now, if someone is poor with a family of 10, chances are, they can't. But for singles who don't eat much, it really is (usually) possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted November 16, 2013 Author Share Posted November 16, 2013 Im indifferent to GMO labels. Everything we eat is pretty much modified in some way from veggies to pork. Its been going on for hundreds of years; it all started by using artificial selection to manipulated plant genetics by crossing breeds that would result in the highest yield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 That is quite a different matter from crossing species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Spider-mans uncle is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) It would be great if things could could be labeled BPA-free. BPA is a endocrine disrupting chemical that leaches out of most plastics. It's particularly bad in the linings of cans. Even organic products have this problem. The only can I've found so far that is truly BPA free is Eden Organics (and they say it right on the label). I also buy my diary in a glass bottle as much as possible. ETA: dairy not diary Edited November 17, 2013 by Maggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 It would be great if things could could be labeled BPA-free. BPA is a endocrine disrupting chemical that leaches out of most plastics. It's particularly bad in the linings of cans. Even organic products have this problem. The only can I've found so far that is truly BPA free is Eden Organics (and they say it right on the label). I also buy my diary in a glass bottle as much as possible. ETA: dairy not diary I thought there was already legislation requiring all plastics to be labeled BPA-free...? Was that only for water bottles? Or maybe the bottles I saw it on were made by companies that did it voluntarily? Not sure. I don't use much plastic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share Posted November 17, 2013 That is quite a different matter from crossing species. lol no its all the same concept. A gene is a gene is a gene. All youre doing is selecting genes to make cool stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 lol no its all the same concept. A gene is a gene is a gene. All youre doing is selecting genes to make cool stuff It maybe all be the same process in the lab—extract gene from X, insert gene into Y—but there does seem to be a significant difference between extracting a gene from one variety of tomato and inserting it into another, and extracting a gene from a fish and inserting it into a tomato. The former may occur in nature; the latter would never happen. I remember the FDA saying for decades that "a fat gram is a fat gram is a fat gram". And then they realized—whoops, not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share Posted November 17, 2013 It maybe all be the same process in the lab—extract gene from X, insert gene into Y—but there does seem to be a significant difference between extracting a gene from one variety of tomato and inserting it into another, and extracting a gene from a fish and inserting it into a tomato. The former may occur in nature; the latter would never happen. I remember the FDA saying for decades that "a fat gram is a fat gram is a fat gram". And then they realized—whoops, not true. Well its my observation and logical conclusion that its ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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