Winchester Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 most sellers of alcohol were either in the mob or doing business with the mob. the moral dimensions of that activity have received thorough treatment in catholic literature. Interesting also about the alcohol poisoning prohibition forces - but the question isn't about prohibition forces is it? tsk tsk tsk you make yourself out to be a politician. They ignore the question they are asked and answer the question they prefer. I don't like missing the chance to say bad stuff about the criminal syndicate commonly known as the State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I don't like missing the chance to say bad stuff about the criminal syndicate commonly known as the State. We know, Winnie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 At any rate, the question is only about selling alcohol, not about all the other activities. Only the selling of alcohol. Not selling bad alcohol, or killing your wife after you were kidnapped and thrown in a cage by thugs with precious little uniforms and magical titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 So all other activites should be ignored? I suppose I could justify Waco because it was ultimately about taxes, and people should pay their taxes, but I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 tONY sOPRANO IS DEAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) one has to first determine if making marijuana illegal is an unjust law that goes against morals. does the church hold a position about marijuana that says if it is not legal, it is an unjust law that should be disregarded? if not, then one needs to question if marijuana is not only morally right to do but so important that one disregard the law to do it. also one needs to look to the catechism to see what the church teaches about drug use. to me, just because you dislike a law or dislike all laws does not mean all laws are morally wrong. I don't care if your an anarchist and you believe in no government. that alone still does not make a law unjust. there has to be a legit reasons and not personal preference for a law to be unjust. Not all laws are just though. Pornography is legal in some places, that is kind of unjust isn't it considering the amount of damage it does. As is abortion. Edited October 27, 2013 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I don't like missing the chance to say bad stuff about the criminal syndicate commonly known as the State. condemn one group of murders and support another group of murders. either way, in your world, your supporting murders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Not all laws are just though. Pornography is legal in some places, that is kind of unjust isn't it considering the amount of damage it does. As is abortion. I never said all laws are just. your lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 condemn one group of murders and support another group of murders. either way, in your world, your supporting murders. Selling alcohol isn't murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 helping somebody in business, when their business plan calls for murdering various competitors, is direct cooperation in murder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 helping somebody in business, when their business plan calls for murdering various competitors, is direct cooperation in murder Sorry, but that would be my point. You're supporting the State, remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) um no. the question is not "is the state heroic" lets re-read to check for understanding which best characterizes those who fought against prohibition by selling alcohol? criminals (2 votes [25.00%]) sinners (1 votes [12.50%]) heroes (5 votes [62.50%]) 2 people voted "criminal" 1 voted "sinner" and 5 people, bless them, voted "heroes." There is not an option for "no comment, xcept cops are heroes." Winchester, politicians try to twist around the question. Are people who sold alcohol during prohibition criminals sinners or heroes is the question. I am not claiming anyone is heroic here. 5 phatmassers are. i don't know if you are among them or not. Edited October 28, 2013 by Lilllabettt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) I never said all laws are just. your lost. I never said you said all laws are just. I was trying to start a conversation with you. And i'm definitely not lost today, thanks for the concern. :) Sorry if i have offended you, that was not my intention. Edited October 28, 2013 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I never said you said all laws are just. I was trying to start a conversation with you. And i'm definitely not lost today, thanks for the concern. :) Sorry if i have offended you, that was not my intention. absolutely no offense taken. just stating all laws are not just. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Sorry, but that would be my point. You're supporting the State, remember? you're supporting murders in the mob who sold alcohol. so in your mind state murder is not ok but mob murder is ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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