Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) for real dUSt and fellows is serious the warnings be coming, and bans are next. Seriously, respect dUSt and his pham. And am totally for dUSt and the mods. Edited October 26, 2013 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Stahp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) Stahp. you know i'm pro catholic right and don't give a rats about sections. Vatican or not, your choice! Edited October 26, 2013 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 you know i'm pro catholic right and don't give a rats about sections. Vatican or not, your choice! Stahp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 for real dUSt and fellows is serious the warnings be coming, and bans are next. Seriously, respect dUSt and his pham. And am totally for dUSt and the mods. I am serious but I haven't warned anybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2Dtoo Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I am serious but I haven't warned anybody That's why you're the only one who takes you seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Stahp. I was drunk when i posted that but i think what i meant in a horribly drunk manner was i don't respect knowledge over love, i respect both, but also i love and respect the magesterium and the pope i just think there more our brothers although also leaders some forget the brother part and bow down out of fear like a dictator situation instead of respect and love, there's a difference you know, same for priests, nuns and missionaries. And i understand knowledge is important but without love and understanding it is mere words. And i know i have been egging this whole knowledge thing on and off again for a few weeks, i'm over it now and i won't be egging yuz on this matter anymore, unfortunately unless i get drunk. But i don't plan on getting drunk for at least till next easter because it turns out i will be sponsoring somebody for r.c.i.a, really hopefully never again if Jesus makes me well again, as in no more getting drunk which i dearly desire, unsure why it isn't happening. Edited October 28, 2013 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I was drunk when i posted that but i think what i meant in a horribly drunk manner was i don't respect knowledge over love, i respect both, but also i love and respect the magesterium and the pope i just think there more our brothers although also leaders some forget the brother part and bow down out of fear like a dictator situation instead of respect and love, there's a difference you know, same for priests, nuns and missionaries. And i understand knowledge is important but without love and understanding it is mere words. And i know i have been egging this whole knowledge thing on and off again for a few weeks, i'm over it now and i won't be egging yuz on this matter anymore, unfortunately unless i get drunk. But i don't plan on getting drunk for at least till next easter because it turns out i will be sponsoring somebody for r.c.i.a, really hopefully never again if Jesus makes me well again, as in no more getting drunk which i dearly desire, unsure why it isn't happening. It isn't happening Tab because you are unable to admit you are an alcoholic and get the help you need. Admitting it is the first step to doing something about it. Jesus doesn't magically make your alcoholism disappear - you have to participate in your own recovery. Denial ensures that you will continue to get drunk, even though you say you don't want to. Please get help. A man is sitting on his porch as flood waters rise. A woman floats by in a boat, asking if the man needs help. "No, thank you," says the man, "I'm trusting in the Lord." The waters rise higher, sending the man upstairs. A raft full of people floats by his second story window. "Get in," they say, "there's plenty of room." "No thanks," says the man, "I'm trusting in the Lord." The flood waters keep rising, pushing the man up to the roof. A helicopter swoops in, lowering its ladder for the man. "Thanks anyway," shouts the man, "I'm trusting in the Lord." Finally, the man is swept away in the torrent and drowns. At the gates of Heaven, the man asks God, "Why didn't you save me?" "What do you mean?'' replies God, "I sent two boats and a helicopter." Get in the boat Tab, go to AA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 Do you drink alcohol Nunsense ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) and also i have said this 2 or 3 times in the past, and for those whom haven't heard yet. I have tried a.a. 3 times or 4 times in the last 3-4 years, each time for a stint of about 3 months, from everything i have heard and read in the big book i am probably not an alcoholic, there are some similarities, perhaps i am a potential alcoholic but aren't we all that way from the way i read the big book with the whole ego trip and all, we are all potential holics maybe not all choose alcohol but aye, and i'm not excusing alcoholism or any other holic behavior (or any sin for that matter) or my bad behavior sometimes when i do get drunk and my behavior isn't bad every time. And i have read some other a.a literature as well. I do have a drinking problem sometimes but i doubt i'm an alcoholic. God bless you. Edited October 28, 2013 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) and also i have said this 2 or 3 times in the past, and for those whom haven't heard yet. I have tried a.a. 3 times or 4 times in the last 3-4 years, each time for a stint of about 3 months, from everything i have heard and read in the big book i am probably not an alcoholic, there are some similarities, perhaps i am a potential alcoholic but aren't we all that way from the way i read the big book with the whole ego trip and all, we are all potential holics maybe not all choose alcohol but aye, and i'm not excusing alcoholism or any other holic behavior (or any sin for that matter) or my bad behavior sometimes when i do get drunk and my behavior isn't bad every time. And i have read some other a.a literature as well. I do have a drinking problem sometimes but i doubt i'm an alcoholic. God bless you. Alcoholism Screening Several tools may be used to detect a loss of control of alcohol use. These tools are mostly self-reports in questionnaire form. Another common theme is a score or tally that sums up the general severity of alcohol use. The CAGE questionnaire, named for its four questions, is one such example that may be used to screen patients quickly in a doctor's office. Two "yes" responses indicate that the respondent should be investigated further. The questionnaire asks the following questions: 1. Have you ever felt you needed to Cut down on your drinking? 2. Have people Annoyed you by criticizing your drinking? 3. Have you ever felt Guilty about drinking? 4. Have you ever felt you needed a drink first thing in the morning (Eye-opener) to steady your nerves or to get rid of a hangover? Binge Drinking Binge drinking is defined as episodic excessive drinking. There is currently no world wide consensus on how many drinks constitute a "binge", but in the United States, the term is often taken to mean consuming five or more standard drinks (male), or four or more drinks (female), on one occasion. One definition states that 5 drinks for men and 4 drinks for women must be consumed on one occasion at least once in a two-week period for it to be classed as binge drinking.This is colloquially known as the "5/4 definition", and depending on the source, the timeframe can vary. In the United Kingdom, binge drinking is defined as drinking more than twice the daily limit, that is, drinking eight units or more for men or six units or more for women (roughly equivalent to five or four American standard drinks, respectively). Binge drinking or heavy episodic drinking is the modern epithet for drinking alcoholic beverages with the primary intention of becoming intoxicated by heavy consumption of alcohol over a short period of time. It is a kind of purposeful drinking style that is popular in several countries worldwide, and overlaps somewhat with social drinking since it is often done in groups. The degree of intoxication, however, varies between and within various cultures that engage in this practice. A binge on alcohol can occur over hours, last up to several days, or in the event of extended abuse, even weeks. Due to the long-term effects of alcohol misuse, binge drinking is considered to be a major public health issue. Binge drinking is associated with a profound social harm, economic costs as well as increased disease burden. Binge drinking is more common in males, during adolescence and young adulthood. Most binge drinkers are not familiar with the risks associated with binge drinking. Heavy regular binge drinking is associated with adverse effects on neurologic, cardiac, gastrointestinal, hematologic, immune, musculoskeletal organ systems as well as increasing the risk of alcohol induced psychiatric disorders. Binge drinking has the propensity to result in brain damage faster as well as more severely than chronic 'non stop' drinking (alcoholism), due to the neurotoxic effects of the repeated rebound withdrawal effects. The tolerance that occurs during chronic ('non-stop') drinking delays alcohol-related brain damage compared to binge drinking which induces immediate and repeated insults to the brain. The neurotoxic insults to the brain are due to very large amounts of glutamate being released on a repeated basis which over-stimulates the brain after each binge finishes, resulting in excitotoxicity. Edited October 28, 2013 by nunsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) According to your sources i'm not a binge drinker, but according to your original C.A.G.E source I classify in C and G, but also i only feel guilty when i get drunk not when i just get tipsy, and there is a difference and i don't get drunk every time i drink. Though i do wan't to eradicate the getting drunk totally, and i disagree with the standardizing of how many drinks is to many, a priest told me it is different for everyone. But also i believe the frequency of drinking is very much a problem, i think someone that has one drink every day and the brain doesn't ever get a break which overtime can alter the mind state and i would class someone that has one drink daily that can't go 3 weeks without a drink ever may actually be an alcoholic, but that's just my opinion and i'm no medical practitioner, and i don't even know if i believe it 100% i just have an inkling. And i also know supposedly st padre pio had a glass of wine or beer that he had every day but he didn't drink it in 30 minutes he drunk it over the whole day as far as i'm aware and even than possibly he fasted off it on fridays, lent and holy days of obligation because from what i hear he couldn't fast anymore from food he hardly ate anything daily and only plain pasta. Oh also thanks for posting all that information, very enlightening. God bless you. Onward christian souls. Jesus is LORD. Edited October 28, 2013 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) One of the most frustrating factors in dealing with alcoholism, as a relative, friend or professional, is it is almost always accompanied by a phenomenon known as "denial." In the long path the alcoholic takes toward mental, physical and moral decline, usually the first thing to go is honesty. He simply lies about his drinking. Little lies at first. I only had two... I haven't had a drink in a week... I don't drink as much as he does... ... If someone tries to discuss his drinking with him, he simply refuses to talk about it, or dismisses it as not a real problem. After all, he's a big boy now and he can drink if he wants to, it's nobody else's business. ... As the disease progresses and his drinking begins to cause real problems in his life, remarkably the denial likewise increases. Even though his sprees have gotten him into some real trouble, he denies it has anything to do with his drinking. === Get help Tab. For your sake. Edited October 28, 2013 by nunsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazeingstar Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Tab. You're using the internet to hide. You well know the rules of Phatmass. You got drunk and posted after several warnings that it was not appreciated by fellow members. This is a risky behavior. What if you had a credit card in hand and bought things off of e-bay? Or if you made drunk telephone calls? Just becuase you harassed Phatmass doesn't make your behavior any less out of control that if you'd done something else. You are not in control of your faculties. Even when you are sober you are so obstinate in your sin that its annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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