The War On Poverty

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

Peace to you bretheren, sympathiesers and others...

 

What are some ways we can help alleviate and/or understand poverty directly or indirectly. Like perhaps for 1 month one could only shower once every two days to help understand poverty and only shower for 3 minutes or something. What are some other ideas?

 

Onward christian souls.

Jesus iz Lord. 

[Era Might]

Feed your mind. Poor people think poor. They need their bellies fed, but also their minds.

Edited October 22, 2013 by Era Might

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

Feed your mind. Poor people think poor. They need their bellies fed, but also their minds.

 

 

So give a poor person a book by a saint perhaps? 

[CrossCuT]

Prayers, volunteering, donations (as much as your own personal checkbook can allow)

 

I think volunteering is a big one. There are SO many opportunities and causes you can volunteer with.

If you lived close to me I could sign you up for the volunteering program I run. Its a Science Education outreach program for undeserved middle schools. 

Edited October 22, 2013 by CrossCuT

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

Volunteering for a catholic organisation that supports the poor is a good one.

[CrossCuT]

Volunteering for a catholic organisation that supports the poor is a good one.

 

Yep! 

Or any! I have been wanting to volunteer with Big Brother Big sister for a while. Just need to find the time between work and school.

It doesnt just have to be monetary poverty, it can be poverty of education, or poverty of care.

People who are unloved or forgotten may not need money, they just need companionship.

[blazeingstar]

I think much of the problem is education.  Much of modern poverty in 1st world countries is because of either organic depression and mental issues, or communal attitude issues.  I think that greater access to metal health-care is key, as well as the end to entitlement programs

 

My friend who was unemployed for nearly a year kept using it and foodstamps until the last minute when she miraculously found a job.  Not convinced it was a miracle, rather, that she realized she was going to have nothing.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

Yep! 

Or any! I have been wanting to volunteer with Big Brother Big sister for a while. Just need to find the time between work and school.

It doesnt just have to be monetary poverty, it can be poverty of education, or poverty of care.

People who are unloved or forgotten may not need money, they just need companionship.

 

 

I understand all this but i'm talking about poverty as in lack of basic essentials like,food,water,clothing and housing.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

I think much of the problem is education.  Much of modern poverty in 1st world countries is because of either organic depression and mental issues, or communal attitude issues.  I think that greater access to metal health-care is key, as well as the end to entitlement programs

 

My friend who was unemployed for nearly a year kept using it and foodstamps until the last minute when she miraculously found a job.  Not convinced it was a miracle, rather, that she realized she was going to have nothing.

 

 

Why do you think axing social security will benefit the poor and not make the situation worse?

Edited October 22, 2013 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye

[CatherineM]

Soap is cheap. Being poor doesn't mean being dirty. I've been poor most of my life.

[blazeingstar]

Why do you think axing social security will benefit the poor and not make the situation worse?

 

Axing it?  No, ending things like easily renewable unemployment, food stamps, and disability be better monitored.

 

Disability claims rise astronomically when unemployment is high and education is low.  Food prices rise when food stamps are used.  Cigarette beer sales go up when more people are unemployment.

 

What we need is social networks on town levels where government and charities can work together to meet peoples needs rather than state and federal cheques.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

Axing it?  No, ending things like easily renewable unemployment, food stamps, and disability be better monitored.

 

Disability claims rise astronomically when unemployment is high and education is low.  Food prices rise when food stamps are used.  Cigarette beer sales go up when more people are unemployment.

 

What we need is social networks on town levels where government and charities can work together to meet peoples needs rather than state and federal cheques.

 

 

Then we need to start giving 10% of our wage as 1st fruits but perhaps not the only fruits to those charities and the church whom feed, clothe and house the poor. If your not poor yourself, but if your poor yourself perhaps you still need to give a little bit anyway. If less then 50% of the developed world aren't doing this sufficiently then taxing them and setting up a better government benefits system is probably the only viable option, but then there are those whom abuse the system and are still in need of the charities so it doesn't eliminate the need for charities. That's what i think anyway, if you can proove me otherwise i will change my mind.

 

Tobit " When you have a lot you need to give a lot, when you have a little you need to give a little and not be ashamed of the little you can give."

 

P.s. This is an ideas thread, i probably shouldn't turn it into a debate, my bad, sorry. Perhaps we can open a thread in the debate called " the war on poverty debate."

Edited October 22, 2013 by Tab'le De'Bah-Rye

[4588686]

y not by moar money if ur pour?

[AccountDeleted]

As my daughter used to say to me when we had money problems... 'Why not just go to the bank and take some out of the machine in the wall?'

[blazeingstar]

Then we need to start giving 10% of our wage as 1st fruits but perhaps not the only fruits to those charities and the church whom feed, clothe and house the poor. If your not poor yourself, but if your poor yourself perhaps you still need to give a little bit anyway. If less then 50% of the developed world aren't doing this sufficiently then taxing them and setting up a better government benefits system is probably the only viable option, but then there are those whom abuse the system and are still in need of the charities so it doesn't eliminate the need for charities. That's what i think anyway, if you can proove me otherwise i will change my mind.

 

Tobit " When you have a lot you need to give a lot, when you have a little you need to give a little and not be ashamed of the little you can give."

 

P.s. This is an ideas thread, i probably shouldn't turn it into a debate, my bad, sorry. Perhaps we can open a thread in the debate called " the war on poverty debate."

 

 

Which would be possible if the tax that the state and federal government put on me was not a legitimate burden to my life.  So called developed countries often tax their citizens to such a burden that they cannot be generous givers.  I give $10 a week to the church because that's all I can afford after tax and physical bills. (rent, heating oil, gas to work, net for mandatory work from home days, electric)  My only variable---the $20 a week I spend on food, in which I managed to pay for not only my all meals (21 plus snacks) but often feed my fiancée 2 or 3 nights a week.  If tomorrow taxes disappear, or were lowered, I would easily give more than 10%.  I would also have a better standard of living.

 

Far fewer people abuse charities than the government, similar to how fewer people steal from mom'n'pop stores than do from Walmart.  When you feel like an insignificant number, taking is very easy.  When you are forced to see that there are some people worse off than you do, when you see people hand you the goods, when you are connected human nature is not to take.  There is no way a lottery winner could waltz into a food pantry because townsfolk would know.  Yet, there have been several noted cases of lottery winners receiving state food stamps for months or even years after collecting on million dollar prizes.