4588686 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) WASHINGTON — Congressional Republicans conceded defeat on Wednesday in their bitter budget fight with President Obama over the new health care law, agreeing to end a disruptive 16-day government shutdown and extend federal borrowing power to avert a financial default with potentially worldwide economic repercussions. With the Treasury Department warning that it could run out of money to pay national obligations within a day, the Senate voted overwhelmingly Wednesday evening, 81 to 18, to approve a proposal hammered out by the chamber’s Republican and Democratic leaders after the House on Tuesday was unable to move forward with any resolution. The House followed suit a few hours later, voting 285 to 144, to approve the Senate plan, which would finance the government through Jan. 15 and raise the debt limit through Feb. 7. Shortly after the Senate vote, President Obama said he would sign the measure as he soon as he received it. While he praised Congress, he said he hoped the damaging standoff would not be repeated. “We’ve got to get out of the habit of governing by crisis,†said Mr. Obama, who urged Congress to move forward, not only with new budget negotiations, but immigration changes and a farm bill as well. “We could get all these things done even this year, if everybody comes together in a spirit of, how are we going to move this country forward and put the last three weeks behind us.â€http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/17/us/congress-budget-debate.html?hp&_r=0 Edited October 17, 2013 by Hasan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 didn't see that coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 “We’ve got to get out of the habit of governing by crisis,†said Mr. Obama, Pot, meet kettle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 Pot, meet kettle. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 What? What part didn't you understand? There are only a couple words there. I know you are from the South, but I like to pretend that you aren't a complete ignoramus even if you voted for Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 What part didn't you understand? There are only a couple words there. I know you are from the South, but I like to pretend that you aren't a complete ignoramus even if you voted for Obama. I voted for Romney, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 What? Well, Mr. Obama does so love crisis. Nothing says "opportunity for change" like a good crisis. I guess mostly I'm thinking of Syria, but a creative fellow with a better memory than I could probably think of more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I voted for Romney, actually. Still an ignoramus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 Well, Mr. Obama does so love crisis. Nothing says "opportunity for change" like a good crisis. I guess mostly I'm thinking of Syria, but a creative fellow with a better memory than I could probably think of more. Ummmm...what? Obama loves a crisis because Syria is in the midst of a civil war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 It's not like spending could have been cut, that assets could have been sold off, or that every investment in the world carries risk. No. Special reality for government. Religious nutters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) Ummmm...what? Obama loves a crisis because Syria is in the midst of a civil war? Our need to be involved in a war with Syria was completely manufactured by him, just as the need to scuttle the US budget by the Republicans was also completely manufactured. Edited October 17, 2013 by arfink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ryan Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Pot, meet kettle. Do you think there is a difference between manufacturing a crisis and using one to your advantage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 Our need to be involved in a war with Syria was completely manufactured by him, just as the need to scuttle the US budget by the Republicans was also completely manufactured. We'd have to be involved with what's going on in Syria no matter who was the President. The whole region is coming under serious strain from the conflict, to say nothing of the humanitarian disaster within Syria. What would you recommend we do? Maybe you don't like the way Obama handled the situation, although I really don't know what your problem with it is, you've just been vague up until now, but he hasn't jumped to get involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Do you think there is a difference between manufacturing a crisis and using one to your advantage? Frankly, I feel like the public outcry against Obamacare by almost half the nation's population was already a political crisis... so in that sense I feel like the manipulations that followed were perhaps using it to advantage. And yet, in both cases, reasons had to be manufactured to fit the crisis at hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 Frankly, I feel like the public outcry against Obamacare by almost half the nation's population was already a political crisis... so in that sense I feel like the manipulations that followed were perhaps using it to advantage. And yet, in both cases, reasons had to be manufactured to fit the crisis at hand. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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