CrossCuT Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 WASHINGTON, D.C. -- With the Republican-controlled House of Representatives engaged in a tense, government-shuttering budgetary standoff against a Democratic president and Senate, the Republican Party is now viewed favorably by 28% of Americans, down from 38% in September. This is the lowest favorable rating measured for either party since Gallup began asking this question in 1992. Roughly one in four Americans see both parties unfavorably. http://www.gallup.com/poll/165317/republican-party-favorability-sinks-record-low.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 And yet, some people still think that you are morally obligated to vote for one or the other. What a flooping joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) I dont feel comfortable voting for either party. :( The approval ratings for congress as a whole are even worse.....5% Edited October 11, 2013 by CrossCuT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I am happiest when Congress and the President do nothing. As far as the polls are concerned, I find them interesting, but do they really reflect anything substantive? I mean Obama still gets an approval rating (on RCP) of 44.4%, but when you break down his approval rating into a rating on his handling of the economy and a rating of his handling of foreign policy he gets an approval rating of 38.9% and 39.8%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 I am happiest when Congress and the President do nothing. Why would you be in favor of having a government that does nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 And yet, some people still think that you are morally obligated to vote for one or the other. What a flooping joke. or it could be some decide to pick the lesser evil. last election, in my mind Romney would have done less harm than Obama. was he a good choice? no, although he would do less harm to religion than Obama. its a sucky way to vote. hopefully soon a real 3rd party emerges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 I cant vote for Democrats because most of the time they are pro-choice. I dont WANT to vote for republicans because of how they treat the poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I cant vote for Democrats because most of the time they are pro-choice. I dont WANT to vote for republicans because of how they treat the poor. http://vimeo.com/45346724 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) I cant vote for Democrats because most of the time they are pro-choice. I dont WANT to vote for republicans because of how they treat the poor. The establishment side of both parties doesn't really care about the poor or the unborn. They are effectively the same party along with most of the mainstream media. You don't need to vote for either, their are other options. We need to get rid of the two party only system. Edited October 11, 2013 by KnightofChrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Why would you be in favor of having a government that does nothing? The government is best which governs not at all. ;) or it could be some decide to pick the lesser evil. last election, in my mind Romney would have done less harm than Obama. was he a good choice? no, although he would do less harm to religion than Obama. its a sucky way to vote. hopefully soon a real 3rd party emerges. Sure, decide to do that if you think it best. (I do not, and my actions reflect that.) But some people argue that it is morally obligatory for everyone to pick one or the other, which is an absolute joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) Why would you be in favor of having a government that does nothing? Because over the course of my lifetime the majority of laws passed by the federal government have simply been about increasing federal power and restricting liberty. The federal government is no longer an institution of limited enumerated powers, and that became quite clear when the Supreme Court ruling on Obamacare came out. Technically Congress now has unlimited power and can require that a person engage in commerce even when he does not wish to do so. Edited October 11, 2013 by Apotheoun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlySunshine Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 This is why I don't see myself as either a Republican or Democrat. I consider myself an Independent because I have views from both sides. I'm registered as an Republican so I can vote in the primaries (you can't as an independent in my state). I can't stand either one of them right now. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God the Father Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) Why would you be in favor of having a government that does nothing? Every time the government does anything, it removes value from the private economy. Every single time. In some cases (public education and infrastructure) we assume the long term gains outmatch the short term losses. In some cases the value-lost is (arguably) worth the law-and-order established, but the returns diminish. At our current level of bureacracy (http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2013/10/lets-have-government-sale.html) the returns have diminished immeasurably. The returns are negative. Edited October 11, 2013 by God the Father Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 The government is best which governs not at all. ;) Sure, decide to do that if you think it best. (I do not, and my actions reflect that.) But some people argue that it is morally obligatory for everyone to pick one or the other, which is an absolute joke. oh I agree, it is never morally obligated to vote for one of the 2. To say otherwise makes me question party alliegence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 The establishment side of both parties doesn't really care about the poor or the unborn. They are effectively the same party along with most of the mainstream media. You don't need to vote for either, their are other options. We need to get rid of the two party only system. I would say this in absolutely false when it comes to the unborn. The reason I say this is because republicans have pushed for so many increased measures to not allow unlimited access to abortion. The have really made it harder to have access to abortions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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