Anastasia13 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) I found this interesting in how it tried to explain the Eastern approach to the Western communion. http://www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/illuminedheart/eastern_catholics_are_they_orthodox 168 - Eastern Catholics - Are They “Orthodox� March 31, 2011 Length: 40:00 There are over 20 ancient Eastern Christian churches in communion with the Pope of Rome whose liturgies and "ethos" are more "Orthodox" than their Latin-Rite brothers. Some of them claim to be "Orthodox in communion with Rome". Some Orthodox disagree, calling them (pejoratively) "Uniates" or Eastern Rite Catholics, who have made significant compromises to come into such communion. In this episode host Kevin Allen speaks with Melkite (Eastern Catholic) priest Father James Babcock about the similarities and differences between Eastern Orthodox, Eastern Catholics and the Roman Catholic Church. Edited October 7, 2013 by Light and Truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Great talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Awesomesauce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia13 Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) Who cares. Sarcasm, right? Cause I have a feeling here people care about church unity, and being about Eastern Catholics, this has an inherent coolness. :cool: All of the cool people care about things that are cool, thus you obviously care about this. :) Edited October 11, 2013 by Light and Truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia13 Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) In such coolness to care about the East, you are as wise as your name reference to Ecclesiastes, Dust. "All go to one place: all are from the dust, and all return to dust," but our time in between shall be spent in the service of the Lord. Edited October 11, 2013 by Light and Truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Have a piece of sentient cake. :cake: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Have a piece of sentient cake. :cake: No. Poor cakey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Sarcasm, right? Cause I have a feeling here people care about church unity, and being about Eastern Catholics, this has an inherent coolness. :cool: All of the cool people care about things that are cool, thus you obviously care about this. :) Unity? I did not think that was high on the Eastern Catholic priority list, because just today a phatmass Eastern Catholic said this: I am opposed to the Eastern Catholic bishops (and Churches) participating in Roman institutions (e.g., the Curia, the Synod of Bishops, and the College of Cardinals). Maybe I am just a stupid man, but on the surface that appears to be the opposite of unity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I am opposed to the Eastern Catholic bishops (and Churches) participating in Roman institutions (e.g., the Curia, the Synod of Bishops, and the College of Cardinals). Unity? I did not think that was high on the Eastern Catholic priority list, because just today a phatmass Eastern Catholic said this: Maybe I am just a stupid man, but on the surface that appears to be the opposite of unity. Actually I said that back on October 9th. Not only am I opposed to Eastern bishops participating in Roman Church offices, I am also opposed to Roman Catholic bishops participating in the Melkite Holy Synod, or the administrative offices (i.e., the equivalent of the Roman Curia) of the Melkite Catholic Church. After all, the Roman Church, as a self-governing body, does not need Eastern Catholic bishops telling it what to do, or how to reform its internal structures any more than the Eastern Churches need Roman Catholic bishops doing that. What is the point of having 23 self-governing Churches if they are in fact not really self-governing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 The Roman Church's Synod of Bishops should be a Roman Catholic body. In other words, it should be like the Holy Synod of the Melkite Church, which governs the Church with the Melkite Patriarch. There is a name in Eastern ecclesiology for a synod that includes representatives of all the different self-governing Churches, and such a synod is called an Ecumenical Council. Is that really what Pope Francis is trying to convene? Perhaps Vatican III is a possibility after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia13 Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 This is actually incredibly logical, Apo. Unity within the self-governing church, unity in communion, unity in faith, respect for spirituality like there is respect for identity within a well-functioning family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 For a better understanding of the synodal nature of the Church I recommend reading the essay linked below: Eastern Synodal Traditions: Pertinence for Western Collegial Institutions by Fr. Michael Fahey, S.J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 (edited) Your reporter said rome claims post 1st century but the council of jerusalem is pre 1st century, which is actually the year 48. Do all orthodox boys have to be circumcised to be christian? And if there are 20 eastern catholic rites, how many orthodox rites and or seperate churches are there? Edited October 12, 2013 by Tab'le Du'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Also please forgive my ignorance but i'm interested as to what is filioque(unsure how to spell it) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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