OnlySunshine Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 (edited) Nvmind. Edited October 3, 2013 by MaterMisericordiae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Perhaps you should move to California. Public school teachers are paid very well, and even private school teachers like myself can do well. I was up for a position teaching religion at a Catholic high school in San Jose, and the starting pay was $50,000 a year, and the pay could be higher based upon the amount of experience you have. The downside is, you would have to live in California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I think you're buying the media's hype that this is like the end of the world. It is not, we've gone through 17 'shutdowns' in the past 30 years or so and the sky did not fall, despite the media's fear mongering. Much of the media has a incestuous relationship with the President and the Democrat Party. If you were to pay close attention you can see that Democrat talking points are repeated far more and in vast amounts in comparison to Republican talking points by the media. They are working together to get people like you to join them in supporting funding for this unjust law. For you and others here it seems to be working. I think that is very sad. Lol, no. In fact the only person who has mentioned the end of the world is you. If your impression of what i said leads you to think Im afraid of armageddon then..I dunno, thats your impression. But I think we can both agree that even if its not the end of the world, people ARE suffering. And the degree of suffering doesnt justify it being ok. But the fact of the matter is they are going to suffer later regardless of what happens now. This is law. There is 0 need to make them suffer right now. its just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Or, perhaps like me, CC knows multiple folks on furloughs. Has friends who are on WIC after losing their jobs earlier this year, and won't have it if it isn't resolved within two weeks (which assuming Boehner lets a vote occur, it could resolve within 24 hours), etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 (edited) I guess he doesnt think Veterans not receiving their income isnt a big deal. Or like you said BG, mothers on WIC. Or the fact that this shutdown will cost us millions of dollars. Just to name a few. All the while the selfish people who caused this are still making their $170k salaries. Edited October 3, 2013 by CrossCuT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Lol, no. In fact the only person who has mentioned the end of the world is you. If your impression of what i said leads you to think Im afraid of armageddon then..I dunno, thats your impression. But I think we can both agree that even if its not the end of the world, people ARE suffering. And the degree of suffering doesnt justify it being ok. But the fact of the matter is they are going to suffer later regardless of what happens now. This is law. There is 0 need to make them suffer right now. its just stupid. The Media is extremely hyping the shutdown that's my point, and that is in fact what is happening. It's not stupid to fight against this law now. It's really stupid not to do so now. It's really stupid to wait till later, because that will never happen. Later will always be later and never now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 (edited) I guess he doesnt think Veterans not receiving their income isnt a big deal. Or like you said BG, mothers on WIC. Or the fact that this shutdown will cost us millions of dollars. Just to name a few. All the while the selfish people who caused this are still making their $170k salaries. The House attempted to fund the Veterans, the Senate refused. I bet they attempt to fund the WIC program if they haven't already and more than likely the Senate will reject it. And pretty sick of you to say I don't care about Veterans. I do, the people who don't are those who are placing Veterans and mothers welfare after politics are those that can't compromise. Those that cannot are the ones in the Senate and the White House. Edited October 3, 2013 by KnightofChrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Or, perhaps like me, CC knows multiple folks on furloughs. Has friends who are on WIC after losing their jobs earlier this year, and won't have it if it isn't resolved within two weeks (which assuming Boehner lets a vote occur, it could resolve within 24 hours), etc. I have friends like that as well. But they'll not be murdered in mass, and the law will not fund their murders in mass. I'm sorry that I choose babies welfare above the welfare of people who will live with hard difficulties temporary but they will be alive. The unjust law that the House is wanting to defund or delay will help murder babies in mass. I'm suprise so many just say hey saving babies lives is not worth it right now lets just wait till later to worry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God the Father Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 I have friends like that as well. But they'll not be murdered in mass, and the law will not fund their murders in mass. I'm sorry that I choose babies welfare above the welfare of people who will live with hard difficulties temporary but they will be alive. The unjust law that the House is wanting to defund or delay will help murder babies in mass. I'm suprise so many just say hey saving babies lives is not worth it right now lets just wait till later to worry about that. They're saying the fight against Obamacare is a Hamburger Hill because it's already a law and has been validated in the John Roberts travesty. Resistance to it as a civil institution is probably futile (like with abortion, interestingly enough) and we should just drop it because meanwhile people are sick and hungry waaah waaah waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 To be fair, Jesus didnt say anything in the Bible about Government shutdowns being bad. Ill leave you to figure out the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ryan Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) the problem is the president has yet to pass a single budget since he has been president and even refused to do so when democrats controlled all 3 branches of government. So really, what makes you think he will ever pass a 4 year budget plan when he has yet to pass a single year budget even when he had all of the power? My critical assessment of a Republican ploy does not mean I am Democratic supporter. So do not mistake my criticism of Republican shenanigans with a tacit approval of the Obama administration. Edited October 4, 2013 by John Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I think you're buying the media's hype that this is like the end of the world. It is not, we've gone through 17 'shutdowns' in the past 30 years or so and the sky did not fall, despite the media's fear mongering. Much of the media has a incestuous relationship with the President and the Democrat Party. If you were to pay close attention you can see that Democrat talking points are repeated far more and in vast amounts in comparison to Republican talking points by the media. They are working together to get people like you to join them in supporting funding for this unjust law. For you and others here it seems to be working. I think that is very sad. Whatever the suffering that is actually being caused by this 'shutdown' is not comparable and does not justify funding this unjust law, what will violate our rights and the rights of the unborn. I doubt we will agree. But I do hope and pray that at some point you will take a stand. Now I think is the best time, because it doesn't matter when the stand is made, the Democrats will fight us tooth and nail and they will not buckle at the knees at anytime. They are going to make the same arguments then as they are now, and they will likely not compromise then as now and help cause another shutdown. The AFA doesn't fund abortion. Not to through out some facts to dam the verbal vomit you're spewing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 They're saying the fight against Obamacare is a Hamburger Hill because it's already a law and has been validated in the John Roberts travesty. Resistance to it as a civil institution is probably futile (like with abortion, interestingly enough) and we should just drop it because meanwhile people are sick and hungry waaah waaah waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Yeah screw those sick and hungry people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE HAVE A POINT TO MAKE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 No, what I'm saying is that human suffering is above my pay grade. There are so many things to weigh here, that it's impossible for any one person to take them all in. Part of the ACA is that states must have at least one non-abortion related insurance option in the state exchanges, currently the state of Rhode Island does not offer such a plan. Do I believe abortion is wrong? Of course. Is it murder? Of course. Have I protested in front of abortion clinics? Yes. Am I pro-life? Yes. Do I think that all life is sacred, from conception to natural death? Yes. People will be starving soon, and I'm sorry if nine million Americans on WIC, possibly going without food, means nothing to an individual. Head Starts will be closing, leading to children not only missing an educational opportunity, but given the socio-economic status of the people served, many of those children will lose the only meal they have in a day. Children are being denied cancer treatments, because NIH is shut down, but apparently, their suffering is just a whining annoyance to some. And mental health funding is taking a hit with the furloughs, something which yesterday has shown, is already underfunded. If you all remember the Capitol shooting from yesterday? Apparently a 34 year old dental hygienist who thought Obama was stalking her, and rammed through a bomb barricade with her car (and infant inside said car). The Capitol Police did as they were trained, and I can't fault them for their logic, and opened fire at a car which had made it through the bomb barriers and therefore might have been a car bomb. Those officers have to live with taking away the life of that child's mother now, a mother who should have been receiving help, but already wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) The downside is, you would have to live in California. This is true. California is a great place when it comes to weather and natural beauty, but it suc[i][/i]ks politically and has really high state and local taxes. Edited October 4, 2013 by Apotheoun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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