Us Gov "shutdown" Appears Imminent

[LinaSt.Cecilia2772]

 

I had forgotten that. :(

 

So from the Washington Post, if the shutdown lasts even two weeks, here's what takes a hit (by no means exhaustive):

 

• 97% of NASA furloughed.
• Head Start programs will begin to close.
• After one week, Women, Infants, and Children (WIC) will be unable to help 9 million Americans currently recieving its aid.
• HUD will be unable to help with housing bills.
• The National Institute of Health will be unable to conduct clinical trials (including child cancer treatment).
• The Center for Disease Control will have to stop research and its anti-flu stuff as flu season starts.
• The G.I. Bill and ROTC Tuition Assistance will be impacted.
• Veterans benefits payments will most likely cease payment in November.
• Monuments, museums, and national parks are closed.
• D.C.'s mayor is using cash reserves to fund city services, those will run out by the end of week two.
• The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) will cease almost all food safety testing.
• The Commodity Futures Trading Commission that tries to handle the derivatives market will be furloughed.
• The Environmental Protection Agency essentially ceases to exist.
• The Department of Labor's regulatory agencies are essentially furloughed (except for the Mining one).  So no OSHA for instance.
• The Small Business Administration will be unable to make new loans.
• It's estimated the U.S. will lose $30 million per day in tourism money and $200 million a week from the economy in the areas surrounding D.C.
• The Social Security Administration is furloughing the people who handle new disability claims and appeals claims.
• Businesses can no longer use E-Verify to determine immigration status.
• the Bureau of Land Management will stop issuing permits to drill on public land.
• The Department of Transportation will cease most airline inspections.
• All federal courts will shut down after running out of money in two weeks.  In theory they can continue to operate with "essential" personnel only after that, but as stretched as they are...
• The Department of Justice will suspend many civil cases as part of a shutdown.
• 52% of employees in the Department of Health and Human Services will be sent home (fortunately the Suicide Prevention Hotline is considered essential staff).
• 50% of Department of Defense civilian employees will be sent home (roughly 400,000 people).
• Most of the Department of Energy will be sent home.

 

 

This makes me sick. The more I inform myself of this shutdown the more it seriously pisses me off.

 

Actually, it enrages me.

 

[Winchester]

This makes me sick. The more I inform myself of this shutdown the more it seriously pisses me off.

 

Actually, it enrages me.

 

Don't worry. We're still going to kill them damned furriners.

[KnightofChrist]

This makes me sick. The more I inform myself of this shutdown the more it seriously pisses me off.

Actually, it enrages me.

Just try to remember the media will spin this like it's Armageddon. But it's not, not even actually close.

[LinaSt.Cecilia2772]

Just try to remember the media will spin this like it's Armageddon. But it's not, not even actually close.

 

Where do you get your information from then? Every type of informative industry is media, and will have biases regardless, including Catholic media. 

 

With all due respect, you don't know me or my media preference on where I get my information from. Your comment hit me the wrong way, but what I do know is that real and innocent people being severely affected by this ridiculous, self-inflicted, and shameful government shutdown is absolutely horrible, regardless of the media. And frankly, I expected better of Congress to do their jobs to not hurt the government, the country, and it's people. It's plain and simple.

Edited October 2, 2013 by LinaSt.Cecilia2772

[KnightofChrist]

Where do you get your information from then? Every type of informative industry is media, and will have biases regardless, including Catholic media.

With all due respect, you don't know me or my media preference on where I get my information from. Your comment hit me the wrong way, but what I do know is that real and innocent people being severely affected by this ridiculous, self-inflicted, and shameful government shutdown is absolutely horrible, regardless of the media. And frankly, I expected better of Congress to do their jobs to not hurt the government, the country, and it's people. It's plain and simple.

No I don't know you. I'm just trying to tell you the media is spinning this like it is the end of days, it is not. I read all types of news outlets even the ones I don't like. I like to be informed as much as possible.Anyway Obamacare matters more to the Senate and President than the shutdown. That's too bad. But I don't want to live under this unjust law. I want Obama to give us little people the same exemption he has given Congress and/or Corporations.

[Anastasia13]

Ok, seriously, if congress can't do their jobs, can we just fire them?

[Didacus]

Long Live Democracy!!!

[Era Might]

 
Australia had a government shutdown once. In the end, the queen fired everyone in Parliament.
 
 

 

Wait...what? This wouldn't happen in Murica. States have rights!!!!!!!111

 

Tell the queen to go back to her chess board. You will pry my parliament from my cold dead hands.

Edited October 2, 2013 by Era Might

[Anomaly]

Long Live Democracy!!!

I only wish I was older so I could have lived all my life before being outvoted by the majority Stupid Party.

[LinaSt.Cecilia2772]

No I don't know you. I'm just trying to tell you the media is spinning this like it is the end of days, it is not. I read all types of news outlets even the ones I don't like. I like to be informed as much as possible.Anyway Obamacare matters more to the Senate and President than the shutdown. That's too bad. But I don't want to live under this unjust law. I want Obama to give us little people the same exemption he has given Congress and/or Corporations.

 

Okay you keep bringing this all around to Obamacare and blame everything on the President. Like Hasan said before, it has been REVIEWED and VALIDATED by every branch of the government and IS the law, and nothing can change that right now. And actually, this shutdown is a big deal. People shouldn't suffer because people in Congress can't get their crap together and do their jobs. They can't waste time trying to repeal a LAW that has been VALIDATED instead of discussing, voting, and passing a budget to fund the government for the good of the people. It's outragous to me, regardless of who's president.

[Winchester]

Like Hasan said before, it has been REVIEWED and VALIDATED by every branch of the government and IS the law, and nothing can change that right now. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_internment_in_the_United_States

 

Color me unimpressed with the opinions of my subordinates in the government.

[John Ryan]

The Democrat Senate could have chosen to vote for the Republican House bill that funded all of the Government but delayed 'Obamacare', or got rid of the individual mandate and got rid of Congress' exception from it. But the Senate chose 'Obamacare' over the chance to avoid a shutdown.

 

The delaying of the PPACA is a laughingstock. They are merely going to push for the same thing as soon as we have this budget fight next year, and try to delay it indefinitely. If the Republicans are willing trade the delay of the PPACA for a four-year budget plan or something, then that would be fair. Otherwise it is merely a heads I win, tails you lose offer.

[Era Might]

[Apotheoun]

Welp, 800,000 Federal employees currently furloughed.  Happy 123^rd birthday to Yosemite National Park, which is closed due to the political theater of the ruling class.  D.C. sure is going to smell ripe soon with that 400 tons of garbage a week that's not being collected by those "non-essential" federal employee garbage men.  I'd tell Congress to go read a good book, but D.C.'s libraries are shut down too.

 

 

I think she means more like where my mother taught for 35 years.  Where a Masters degree, 35 years of experience, and over 100 hours of continuing education (which aaround 6-9 hours was required each year) was barely enough to break 45k a year gross income.  I'd be happy to make that 60-100k with my doctorate when done, but that's not happening...unless you all vote BG45 for United States Senate.  Please don't, I worked on a Republican U.S. Senate Campaign once, it disillusioned me heavily with our entire political system, and sharing a stage with President Bush wasn't worth all the drama.
 

Perhaps she did mean that, but teachers in the SF Bay Area have had incomes in excess of $100,000 a year for a long time. My aunt made about $80,000 a year, but she lived in a smaller rural area.

[4588686]

 I like to be informed as much as possible.

 

 

Lol.  Thanks.  I needed a good laugh.