Ex-catholic Says Francis Only Confirms Him In His Apostasy

[Apteka]

Remarkable article by an ex-Catholic on the Francis phenomena. What's eerie is that this fellow had a proper view of Catholicism, and apparently left due to the destruction he saw around him. Here are a few quotes:

 

http://ideas.time.com/2013/09/29/im-still-not-going-back-to-the-catholic-church/

 

http://wdtprs.com/blog/

 

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"Just over two decades ago, when I began the process to enter the Roman Catholic Church as an adult convert, I chose to receive instruction at a university parish, figuring that the quality of teaching would be more rigorous. After three months of guided meditations and endless God is love lectures, I dropped out. What I was told, in effect, in that university Catholic parish was that God loved me just as I was — true — but that I didn’t need to do anything else. It dawned on me one day that at the end of this process, all of us in the class would end up as Catholics, but have no idea what the Catholic Church taught. I bolted, and a year later, I was received into the Church in another parish."

 

"If you only know about the Catholic Church from reading the papers, you are in for a shock once you come inside. The image of American Catholicism shown by the media is of a church preoccupied with sex and abortion. It’s not remotely true. I was a faithful mass-going Catholic for 13 years, attending a number of parishes in five cities in different parts of the country. I could count on one hand the number of homilies I heard that addressed abortion or sexuality in any way. Rather, the homilies were wholly therapeutic, almost always some saccharine variation of God is love."

 

"The contemporary era of global Catholicism began in 1959, when the newly elected Pope John XXIII sought to “open the windows” of the fusty old Church to the modern world by calling the Second Vatican Council. Three years later, in his opening address to the council, the charismatic and avuncular pope called for “a new enthusiasm, a new joy and serenity of mind in the unreserved acceptance by all of the entire Christian faith,” without compromising on doctrine. A fierce spirit of the age blasted through those newly-opened windows, scouring nearly everything in its path. The coming decades would see a collapse in Catholic catechesis and Catholic discipline. The so-called “spirit of Vatican II” — a perversion of the Council’s actual teaching — justified many subsequent outrages."

Edited September 30, 2013 by Apteka

[Apotheoun]

Prayers for the poor man. 

[Apteka]

I can't blame him Apotheoun, hopefully his found safety elsewhere

[Apotheoun]

I pray that he finds true safety in the sacraments of the Church, and the worship of the Father, through the Son, in the Spirit.

[Guest]

What a quiter....Mabey he can go start his own church...Since he's so holy...

[Apotheoun]

Mabey he can go start his own church...

We don't need another Joseph Smith.   :smile3:

[Apteka]

What a quiter....Mabey he can go start his own church...Since he's so holy...

 

Can't fault a man for being concerned with truth. I too wonder where safety may be found

[Apotheoun]

I can console myself - after finishing his article - with the fact that he became Eastern Orthodox. At least he is in a true Apostolic Church.

[Didacus]

I hate to say it, but there is a certain point to this.

 

Most of what I know of the Church is actually self-taught.  I had to invest significant effort and energy to find so much as the reliable sources to learn about Catholicism.

(phatmass was a great help to this end - by the way)

[4588686]

Hm.  So the guy left the Church under the reign on JPII and worried that the current Pope is undoing all the great, restorative work that the Pope under whose reign he left began.  He believes that the Catholic Church has become unmoored and squishy so he decides to join a Church that perpetually cowtowing to a corrupt strongman whose is also a religious charlatan who nobody believes to give a damn about the Orthox Church except to the extent it'll whore itself to him for state affirmation in return for sanctioning his reign with the traditional iconography of Russian nationalism so he can persist in his corruption and authoritarianism. Cool.

[Not The Philosopher]

I hate to say it, but there is a certain point to this.

 

Most of what I know of the Church is actually self-taught.  I had to invest significant effort and energy to find so much as the reliable sources to learn about Catholicism.

(phatmass was a great help to this end - by the way)

 

This.

 

We have to get our Catechesis on.

[Apotheoun]

I think he converted during the pontificate of Pope Benedict.

[Apteka]

I think he converted during the pontificate of Pope Benedict.

 

Apotheoun, just as an aside, from the Orthodox perspective, do they make attempts to proselytize Roman Catholics?

[John Ryan]

My time with the Roman Catholic Church bears no resemblance to this man's experience. The parish I frequent encourages us to love our neighbors and be better human beings. It does not shirk from the reality of our brokenness. 

[John Ryan]

My time with the Roman Catholic Church bears no resemblance to this man's experience. The parish I frequent encourages us to love our neighbors and be better human beings. It does not shirk from the reality of our brokenness.