Gabriela Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Someone just sent this to me. It's from here: http://wndwatch.wordpress.com/2013/08/25/god-told-ex-pope-benedict-xvi-to-quit/ September 9, 2013 'Mystical': Pope says 'God told me' to quitBenedict goes public on 'direct rapport with the Lord' It was the resignation that shocked the world, but apparently it did not stun the powers of heaven. Former Pope Benedict XVI is now going public with more information about why he left the most powerful position in the Catholic Church, claiming he had a "mystical experience," with God personally instructing him to step down. "God told me to do it," the 86-year-old ex-pontiff told a friend, as he broke his silence for the first time since becoming the first pope to leave office in 600 years. Benedict indicated God had implanted in his heart the "absolute desire" to resign and to devote himself to a life of prayer and reflection, though he admits he didn't personally see the Creator of the universe. "It was not because of any type of apparition or phenomenon of that sort," he said, but a months-long "mystical experience" during what he called "a direct rapport with the Lord." His remarks to the unnamed confidante were made several weeks ago, according to the Catholic news agency Zenit. The conversation took place in the Mater Ecclesiae, the former convent inside Vatican walls which has been converted into a retirement home featuring views across Rome to the Apennine mountains. In the last six months, Benedict, the former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger of Germany, has received few visitors at his secluded house. "During these meetings, the ex-pontiff does not comment, does not reveal secrets, does not make statements that could be understood as 'the words of the other pope,' but is as reserved as he has always been," Zenit said. Vatican sources are not splashing cold water on news of the conversation. To the contrary, one insider told Britain's Daily Telegraph, "The report is reliable, without a doubt, although this is not an official Vatican statement or position." Another told the Guardian, "The report seems credible. It accurately explains the spiritual process that brought Benedict to resign." After witnessing the "charisma" of his successor, Pope Francis, Benedict said he understood how his decision to leave the papacy was the "will of God." But Benedict's story now differs from the reasons he originally provided when he announced his resignation Feb. 11. "My strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry," he said at the time. Even a German journalist who had met Benedict reported the pontiff was going deaf, appeared to be blind in one eye and was emaciated and "exhausted-looking." With one pope out and another one fresh to the scene, there had been some concern that Benedict would exert undue influence at the Vatican, but the popular approach of Pope Francis and his shakeup of Vatican protocols have relegated Benedict to the sidelines. The new pope has even made light of the situation, joking in July: "The last time there were two or three popes, they didn't talk among themselves and they fought over who was the true pope!" He added that having Benedict living in the Vatican "is like having a grandfather – a wise grandfather – living at home." The brand-new revelation from Benedict is re-energizing the buzz about a 900-year-old Catholic prophecy suggesting that the current pope, Francis, will be the last pontiff to hold office until the return of Jesus to Earth. "Gloria Olivae says he had 'mystical experience' during which God told him to resign. So is it God who is keeping the 'Prophecy of the Popes' on track?" asks Tom Horn, co-author of the book "Petrus Romanus: The Final Pope Is Here." Horn also appears on the DVD movie "The Last Pope?" which is based on his book. The original prediction came from Malachy, a Catholic saint who lived in Ireland in the 12th century. His "Prophecy of the Popes" as it has become to be known forecast in the year 1139 that there would be 112 popes from that time until Jesus made His triumphant return to the planet as King of kings. The sudden and unexpected resignation of Benedict was the spark igniting the new wildfire of speculation due to one simple reason: his successor, Pope Francis, is the end of the line. Horn explains on the DVD, "The final line in the Prophecy of the Popes says there will sit Peter the Roman who will nourish the sheep in many tribulations. And when these things are finished, the city on seven hills will be destroyed and the Great and Terrible Judge will judge His people. The end. ... "The most significant thing of course is we've reached the end of it. And now the world is looking at it and they're wondering, 'Is this going to be the pope who will preside over the Catholic Church as the world enters into the great tribulation period? ... "Some believe that the Prophecy of the Popes is describing a man who in one way or another is going to help give rise to the antichrist." Horn observed that people of all faith and even people of no faith are looking at world events today with a sharper focus. "Some are frightened by what they see happening, others are scrambling to interpret the signs, and I think people have a sense that prophecy is unfolding around the world. People have a sense that something is kind of unhinged right now," he said. Dr. George Grant of Nashville, Tenn., a historian and former pastor who has written more than 60 books, says regardless of whether there is any validity to the prophecies, sooner or later Pope Francis and the Vatican will have to deal with issue. "It doesn't matter whether or not it's true. It matters that people think it's true and that they act in light of it. So my guess is that Francis and the Vatican will have to deal with this in some way, and in dealing with it, they in a sense give credence to it. That makes for fascinating politics, remarkable, unpredictable undercurrents, and in an age when quite frankly the whole world is unsteady and in the midst of turmoil, just that additional little bit creates all the more uncertainty. Do I think we need to pay attention to it? Absolutely." What's up with that prophecy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 That's an old prophesy. Not an approved revelation, so far as I know. No one can know the day nor the hour, etc etc. I'm not placing any faith in it, even while I intend to keep my soul in order as best I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle_eye222001 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I wouldn't buy stock in it. Secretary denies God told Benedict XVI to resign http://www.religionnews.com/2013/08/26/secretary-denies-god-told-benedict-xvi-to-resign/ Bottom line, keep the faith, but don't carry the story. Seems to be pretty sketch. God may have told him to resign, but it's unwise to promote such a story based one one alleged account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 God tells my husband to do stuff all the time, especially during mass. He takes meds for it. Malachy could have used a good antipsychotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AugustineA Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Hm. I've heard about those prophecies. Best prepare while remaining skeptical. No one will know His coming. I was kind of disappointed about B16 resigning. Does anyone remember lightning striking the Vatican? That was ominous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Hm. I've heard about those prophecies. Best prepare while remaining skeptical. No one will know His coming. I was kind of disappointed about B16 resigning. Does anyone remember lightning striking the Vatican? That was ominous. I bet it happens all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 How the heck is Francis "Peter the Roman" anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 The amount of hoops they have to jump through to get some of those popes to "fit" the prophesy is evidence enough that it's probably meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 How the heck is Francis "Peter the Roman" anyway? He's Italian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 the end of that article suggests that the Vatican will have to address this in some way... I highly doubt it. the Vatican puts zero stock in the prophecy of St. Malachy, and will ignore it and hope it goes away with the election of the next pope after Francis. it probably won't go away because people will start saying there's nothing in the prophecy that says there can't be popes between gloria olivae and peter the roman, lol, but yeah, no one in the Vatican is losing any sleep over it, I think I can pretty much guarantee that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) Peter the Roman could probably be applied to any Pope. Since the Pope is Peter, and the Pope is Roman. Not that I take it seriously but Pope Francis could thought of as Peter the Roman because he has promised and shown an special devotion to Rome, and has emphasized his being Bishop of Rome more than other Popes in the past. Edited September 11, 2013 by KnightofChrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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