arfink Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Which philosophers do you enjoy reading? Of late I enjoy Josef Pieper. I also should warn you that I despised Kant, and Wittgenstein made me doubt the sanity of all philosophers. Although I found his ideas about philosophy of language rather refreshing, I found that when you applied his ideas directly to epistemology or metaphysics you wind up with a big hairy mess. Oh, and Thomas Aquinas. I like that guy. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I remain unconvinced that Hegel's career was not one giant practical joke which nobody ever caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) pro-tip: don't take Hasan or Winchester seriously. ;) pre-emptively informing on Winchester I see. ps welcome to phatmass dude. Edited September 7, 2013 by Lilllabettt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I remain unconvinced that Hegel's career was not one giant practical joke which nobody ever caught. That's kinda the way I feel about most modern and contemporary philosophers, and all manner of hipsters in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 That's kinda the way I feel about most modern and contemporary philosophers, and all manner of hipsters in general. Sounds like an adequate basis for a new philosophical school. Jocularism... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 pro-tip: don't take Hasan or Winchester seriously. ;) This :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Sounds like an adequate basis for a new philosophical school. Jocularism... Let's do it. I think we should focus most of our inquiry on aesthetics, because aesthetics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ryan Posted September 7, 2013 Author Share Posted September 7, 2013 Of late I enjoy Josef Pieper. I also should warn you that I despised Kant, and Wittgenstein made me doubt the sanity of all philosophers. Although I found his ideas about philosophy of language rather refreshing, I found that when you applied his ideas directly to epistemology or metaphysics you wind up with a big hairy mess. Oh, and Thomas Aquinas. I like that guy. :) I read Josef Pieper's The Christian Idea of Man, which I rather enjoyed. He is a good Thomist philosopher/theologian and considering I love the virtue ethics of Aristotle, I assent with Pieper's focus on the four virtues and his stress on the value of leisure. St. Aquinas is quite interesting, but his writing style is terribly dry, so I find it difficult to read him. Kant is probably the least interesting of the German Idealists. He is kind of a skeptic, and I think that Hegel does a decent job of sublating his subjective idealism. Wittgenstein is way too linked to the logical positivist movement for my taste. I do not really buy into this Rortian and Wittgensteinian death of epistemology and ontology, though I do maintain a healthy measure of postmodern doubt. I remain unconvinced that Hegel's career was not one giant practical joke which nobody ever caught. Hegelian philosophy makes a lot of sense to be (it's basically the same as Plato's), so I cannot take that assertion as anything but a practical joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ryan Posted September 7, 2013 Author Share Posted September 7, 2013 Of late I enjoy Josef Pieper. I also should warn you that I despised Kant, and Wittgenstein made me doubt the sanity of all philosophers. Although I found his ideas about philosophy of language rather refreshing, I found that when you applied his ideas directly to epistemology or metaphysics you wind up with a big hairy mess. Oh, and Thomas Aquinas. I like that guy. :) I read Josef Pieper's The Christian Idea of Man, which I rather enjoyed. He is a good Thomist philosopher/theologian and considering I love the virtue ethics of Aristotle, I assent with Pieper's focus on the four virtues and his stress on the value of leisure. St. Aquinas is quite interesting, but his writing style is terribly dry, so I find it difficult to read him. Kant is probably the least interesting of the German Idealists. He is kind of a skeptic, and I think that Hegel does a decent job of sublating his subjective idealism. Wittgenstein is way too linked to the logical positivist movement for my taste. I do not really buy into this Rortian and Wittgensteinian death of epistemology and ontology, though I do maintain a healthy measure of postmodern doubt. I remain unconvinced that Hegel's career was not one giant practical joke which nobody ever caught. Hegelian philosophy makes a lot of sense to be (it's basically the same as Plato's), so I cannot take that assertion as anything but a practical joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 St. Thomas Aquinas, dry? Well, if you consider that the Summa basically amounts to in-class notes taken by scribes as he taught, it makes some sense. The richness of his thought is pretty amazing once you cut through the thick historical rind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) :welcome: We've got all kinds around here, Catholics all over the spectrum, atheists, Eastern Catholics... The best thing for you to do is just jump right in and share your opinion on stuff. Debate Table's for serious (or ridiculous) arguing, Transmundane is for serious spiritual discussion, Open Mic is the catch all, and the Lame board is for nonsense. Phatmass can sometimes have a sense of humor that requires a learning curve, so like other have said, don't take anything Winchester and Hasan say seriously, and the curse word fiddler also changes other words, to keep things interesting. Oh and right now I love Bonhoeffer. Bonhoeffer counts as a philosopher, right? Meh. He's a bro. Edited September 7, 2013 by Basilisa Marie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Go away. ლ(ಠ益ಠლ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Go away. You forgot to add 'fatty.' And what's with all these snitches. We're going to have to start shanking rats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Hegelian philosophy makes a lot of sense to be (it's basically the same as Plato's), so I cannot take that assertion as anything but a practical joke. Neither Hegel nor Plato make much sense. Neopragmatism ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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