Living With Non Catholics

[HisChildForever]

lol ok...not even trying to be argumentive or attack catholics...but from my life experience I don't agree with you...but as always respect your opinion....

 

I don't think you're trying to be argumentative or attack. But if a Catholic believes or acts contrary to the Church, he's not practicing. Yes, we all slip up, we all sin. But there's a difference between thinking "it's all good" and thinking "I need to go to confession."

[Winchester]

As a rule, practicing Catholics don't engage in premarital sex.

That is the rule. It doesn't mean that as a rule they don't.

[HisChildForever]

That is the rule. It doesn't mean that as a rule they don't.

 

As a rule = for the most part/generally speaking

[Winchester]

As a rule = for the most part/generally speaking

Yes, I know. Do you disagree with my statement?

[HisChildForever]

Yes, I know. Do you disagree with my statement?

 

Post 61 pretty much sums up what I'm trying to say. I think we all know the difference between a practicing and non-practicing Catholic.

[Basilisa Marie]

...you'd be surprised how many supposedly practicing Catholics are actually having sex before marriage. 

Edited August 8, 2013 by Basilisa Marie

[CatholicsAreKewl]

Lol it doesn't help that guilt can be a huge aphrodisiac.

Edited August 8, 2013 by CatholicsAreKewl

[franciscanheart]

A study was conducted, and as long as two sheets of 1/2" drywall are between you and the sinner, you will be protected by sin molecules. Passing by an open door quickly rarely yields enough exposure to even register as a venial sin. Even with central air, the sin molecules generally degrade quickly enough that even if they pass through the air fiddler, they are long disintegrated before leaving the air register.
 
In the case of older construction, wood sheathing is sufficient. 
 
Single pane windows are 80% effective, newer double pain windows are 100% effective. Glass bricks trap the sin molecules. If someone breaks a glass brick in your presence, run away.
 
Lysol is effective at purifying restrooms which may have been used for unclean acts. Or you could just get one of those saint candles from Wal-Mart.

:love: 
 

That is the rule. It doesn't mean that as a rule they don't.

Pretty much. :|

[MarysLittleFlower]

I would venture to say devout practicing catholics sin just as bad....Although I get what you are saying and the point you're making...Good luck...

 

Everyone has sins, I do too. But I think the point that I'm making, is that premarital sex is like a norm in our society, but not among my devout Catholic (or Protestant, or Orthodox) friends. Even if someone were to commit this sin, it's not a norm, and they'd hopefully go to Confession and get out of it. The Catholic friends I know are trying to live chastely, because that's important. We can't just be like the world. I don't think my sins are any less serious than non Catholics, it could be they're more serious. But the point is that Catholics should try to not sin and work on growing in holiness so they can overcome any mortal sin, with God's grace.

Some of the biggest hypocrites I have met in life have been practicing cathlocis/christians....Myself included.....I think the reason being is we talk about these rules we must follow when half or most the time we can't keep them ourselves....So in turn it turns us into the biggest hypocrites....I'm not just talking sex before marriage....I don't think its impossible not to have sex before marriage...Heck I have done it for the most part...Although I'm not pure in any sense of the word....Anyhow I think these teachings are legit but at the same time I don't think to many people do a perfect job at actually keeping them 24/7....I'll leave it at that...

 

Of course, I'm a sinner too. I''m weak and I don't follow the Commandments all the time, which is very sad. But I think what I was saying, is that the devout Catholics I know aren't *living* in sin. If they sin, they go to Confession, and try to get out of it, or the situation. But for the world, - things like premarital sex are the norm, and people don't really try to get out of it unless they have a conversion and realize it's wrong. I'm a convert and before I turned to God, I lived in sin too without truly repenting of it. Now, I'm still very weak, but praying for more repentance. I think moving into a Catholic house, it would be assumed that premarital sex would not be the norm, and really it wouldn't be expected.

I don't think you're trying to be argumentative or attack. But if a Catholic believes or acts contrary to the Church, he's not practicing. Yes, we all slip up, we all sin. But there's a difference between thinking "it's all good" and thinking "I need to go to confession."

 

I agree... it's the difference between sinning and then repenting, going to Confession, and trying to change your life.... or living in sin and not caring.

...you'd be surprised how many supposedly practicing Catholics are actually having sex before marriage. 

Maybe it depends on what you mean... I'm not going to talk about anyone in particular. But maybe there are Catholics who were devout and then got into this sin, and found it hard to stop. Hopefully, they would accept God's  help to stop. Then, there are people who make a mistake but repent right away. Then, there are those who say they're practicing Catholics, but are living in sin and not truly repenting and not caring, and either not confessing, or making incomplete Confessions. But I'm talking about those who are actually trying to follow the Church teachings :)

[Socrates]

That is the rule. It doesn't mean that as a rule they don't.

 

Depends on just how serious about practicing their faith the Catholics in question are.

[Winchester]

Depends on just how serious about practicing their faith the Catholics in question are.

The statement she made would include all "practicing" Catholics. Apparently, everyone agrees on what that term means.

[HisChildForever]

The statement she made would include all "practicing" Catholics. Apparently, everyone agrees on what that term means.

 

A practicing Catholic is someone who adheres to Church teaching. Is there some other definition?

[AccountDeleted]

I'm not so sure it's about living with Catholics or non-Catholics as it is about living with those who share your moral values, especially ones that might affect you personally. And as someone said before, it is always good to get these things sorted out before moving in together.

 

 

[MithLuin]

I think [b]MLF[/b] has made it clear that she would *prefer* to live in a house where Catholic rules are followed and accepted, and that she has a bit of trepidation going into a situation where they are not.  In particular, she's concerned about guys coming over and spending the night.  I think it's perfectly reasonable to be uneasy about this, and also understandable to think that these potential future roommates she's never met might have different views on this topic than she does, since many people in our modern American society would see nothing amiss with that.  

 

Yes, it is true that even in a 'Catholic' household, people might break the rules, but if the ground rules are established, it would be easier to confront someone over that or again bring up that that's not supposed to be happening....whereas in other situations, she might feel obligated to keep her mouth shut and not say anything, since the rules of the house do not prohibit such behavior.  

 

There are ways to find Catholic roommates, and ways to meet roommates before agreeing to live with them.  I think that having an upfront conversation about expectations before hand can be helpful - just get everything out on the table, and see if you can live with that.  This is true for whatever your trepidations are - if you'd rather your roommates not engage in underage drinking in the apartment, it's good to have that talk in advance.  You can find roommates who aren't interested in that.  A group of people who are on the same page to start with are less likely to do things that drive each other crazy or make someone uncomfortable in their own 'home.'  So...put some effort into finding that!

[MarysLittleFlower]

I'm not so sure it's about living with Catholics or non-Catholics as it is about living with those who share your moral values, especially ones that might affect you personally. And as someone said before, it is always good to get these things sorted out before moving in together.

 

That's a point, but I think it might be easier to look for a house with Catholics rather than anyone who shares  my morals, because there are ways to speak with the Catholics, and not the others, beforehand :) otherwise, I can only speak to the landlord. That's how my situation seems to be. However, so far I can't find a Catholic household that has available rooms in the area, so I'm not really sure what the outcome would be.

I think MLF has made it clear that she would *prefer* to live in a house where Catholic rules are followed and accepted, and that she has a bit of trepidation going into a situation where they are not.  In particular, she's concerned about guys coming over and spending the night.  I think it's perfectly reasonable to be uneasy about this, and also understandable to think that these potential future roommates she's never met might have different views on this topic than she does, since many people in our modern American society would see nothing amiss with that.  

 

Yes, it is true that even in a 'Catholic' household, people might break the rules, but if the ground rules are established, it would be easier to confront someone over that or again bring up that that's not supposed to be happening....whereas in other situations, she might feel obligated to keep her mouth shut and not say anything, since the rules of the house do not prohibit such behavior.  

 

There are ways to find Catholic roommates, and ways to meet roommates before agreeing to live with them.  I think that having an upfront conversation about expectations before hand can be helpful - just get everything out on the table, and see if you can live with that.  This is true for whatever your trepidations are - if you'd rather your roommates not engage in underage drinking in the apartment, it's good to have that talk in advance.  You can find roommates who aren't interested in that.  A group of people who are on the same page to start with are less likely to do things that drive each other crazy or make someone uncomfortable in their own 'home.'  So...put some effort into finding that!

I have a way to speak with potential Catholic roommates, unfortunately no available rooms have so far come up in the area that I'm looking for. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if I would be able to speak to other roommates before moving in. This is because I'm not living in the city right now, and the only way to arrange housing is by phone with the landlord. I'm just praying to find the right place.