Winchester Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 D'Souza is a legit intellectual. Did you know that Christopher Hitchens favorably reviewed his book, "Life After Death: The Evidence"? He definitely didn't agree with you about D'Souza being a fool. You need to stop using wiki for a source - ANY type of public-edited source is a suspect one. If you go to a wiki every time you need to learn about someone, you will be easily controlled by mob think. Do your own reading and think for yourself. I don't really watch any of these debates because they are very boring. It's not possible to prove God exists. It's also not possible to prove he doesn't exist. Let's watch a couple people try for a couple hours. Snore. Unimpressed so far by the dinesh. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkIyWsDaBcY&feature=youtu.be[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Dinesh D'souza. Blech. He's a statist Winnie, of course you don't like him. Just read the William Lane Craig debate with Hitchens. Craig sucked less. It's frustrating to witness people talk past each other. Sorry I'm tired and grouchy. Probably shouldn't be posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicsAreKewl Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Dinesh D'souza. Blech. He's a statist Winnie, of course you don't like him. Just read the William Lane Craig debate with Hitchens. Craig sucked less. It's frustrating to witness people talk past each other. Sorry I'm tired and grouchy. Probably shouldn't be posting. Really? I don't find craig that good. I liked D'Souza more. There's also a few Catholics that did fine against Hitchens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Really? I don't find craig that good. I liked D'Souza more. There's also a few Catholics that did fine against Hitchens. I didn't so much think Craig did good (he was ok) as I think Hitchens failed rather miserably. Ok, that's an exaggeration, but Craig made some specific claims at the beginning of the debate, and about halfway through, Craig challenged Hitchens to disprove any specific claim he had made. I might have missed it, but I didn't seem like Hitchens ever did. Hitchens had a couple of good moments, but he didn't really disprove any argument Craig made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleWaySoul Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Just gonna leave this here :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFRN3kp4MiA&feature=youtu.be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 So he says at the end of this rather short video clip that it's a moral and ethical question to decide whether abortion is right or wrong. He also says it should be the decision of both parents. This is NOT christopher hitchens saying he believes all abortions are wrong... In todays promiscuous society there probably are way too many abortions going on but that doesn't make all abortions unethical and immoral. It's not as black and white as I imagine most catholics believe it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 LMAO this is so funny http://youtu.be/9V85OykSDT8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicsAreKewl Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I didn't so much think Craig did good (he was ok) as I think Hitchens failed rather miserably. Ok, that's an exaggeration, but Craig made some specific claims at the beginning of the debate, and about halfway through, Craig challenged Hitchens to disprove any specific claim he had made. I might have missed it, but I didn't seem like Hitchens ever did. Hitchens had a couple of good moments, but he didn't really disprove any argument Craig made. Meh, I rewatched it. Hitchens didn't do so well in this one. I guess I was thinking about another Craig debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 So he says at the end of this rather short video clip that it's a moral and ethical question to decide whether abortion is right or wrong. He also says it should be the decision of both parents. This is NOT christopher hitchens saying he believes all abortions are wrong... In todays promiscuous society there probably are way too many abortions going on but that doesn't make all abortions unethical and immoral. It's not as black and white as I imagine most catholics believe it to be. The life or death of a child is a pretty black-and-white situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 No I meant the reasons why a mother should abort is not black and white. What if she was raped? It's her body not the churches. I'm so glad the law allows abortion for this exact reason. It is true that abortion is used as a quick get out clause and I don't think that's right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 No I meant the reasons why a mother should abort is not black and white. What if she was raped? It's her body not the churches. I'm so glad the law allows abortion for this exact reason.It is true that abortion is used as a quick get out clause and I don't think that's right The child is not a piece of property that belongs to the mother. Your argument is in favor of a form of child slavery. The child should not be put to death because of the crimes of the father. It is rather backwards thinking to think of such a child as some type of curse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 No I meant the reasons why a mother should abort is not black and white. What if she was raped? It's her body not the churches. I'm so glad the law allows abortion for this exact reason. It is true that abortion is used as a quick get out clause and I don't think that's right No, it's not her body. Unless you're of the bizarre opinion that mother and child are together one human person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Hmmm never looked at it like that Knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Well it's very good of you to wish him well Lilllabettt. Thanks :) If atheism's true, Christopher Hitchens no longer exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 How does someone "win" a debate? Easy. The guy who agrees with my opinions is the winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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