Quinn Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Here's the definition of the word Religion from the Oxford Dictionary noun [mass noun] the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods:ideas about the relationship between science and religion [count noun] a particular system of faith and worship:the world’s great religions [count noun] a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion:consumerism is the new religion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Oxford dictionary on the word Atheist noun a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods:he is a committed atheist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I didn't say it was a belief system. You said that non-belief isn't a belief. I pointed out that it was, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Yeh I'm right it's not a belief. It's a non belief or a disbelief. I'm going to be frank here. All i've seen in this forum is catholics arguiing semantics and twisting meanings and words to make them feel happy that their child molesting, warped church is right.. If you don't understand plain logic and english then you shouldn't even have a pet let alone be advising people about moral and ethical issues. The funniest thing I saw was one of the catholics saying "well child molestation isn't as bad in the catholic church as it is in public". That is soooo shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) This really isn't a productive discussion is it? Edited August 5, 2013 by Amppax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Yeh I'm right it's not a belief. It's a non belief or a disbelief. If one believes there is no God, then that is a disbelief in God, but it is still a belief, be it a belief that God does not exist, it is still a belief. Belief does not always mean one believes in something. It can be also be a "conviction of the truth of some statement or the reality of some being or phenomenon especially when based on examination of evidence." Positive Atheism can in fact be a lot like a religion, because many atheists do not simply not believe in God (negative atheism) they make it an ideology to which they are devoted. I'm going to be frank here. All i've seen in this forum is catholics arguiing semantics and twisting meanings and words to make them feel happy that their child molesting, warped church is right.. If you don't understand plain logic and english then you shouldn't even have a pet let alone be advising people about moral and ethical issues. The funniest thing I saw was one of the catholics saying "well child molestation isn't as bad in the catholic church as it is in public". That is soooo shameful. If by frank you mean, overly simplistic and omitting a lot of what was said, as well as truth, then yes you are very frank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 So not believing in god makes me a believer??... I'm only a believer in atheism... hahaha talk about beating around the bush. I think too much verse has addled your train of thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 So not believing in god makes me a believer??... I'm only a believer in atheism... hahaha talk about beating around the bush. I think too much verse has addled your train of thought. You belief God doesn't exist, that is a belief, you believe the existence of the universe is not due to God's creation, that is a belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Believing that God is false is still a belief. To hold an option for or against something is a belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 ZOMG YOU'VE SHAKEN MY BELIEF SYSTEM TO THE CORE I CAN NO LONGER DENY THE TRUTH. THERE IS NO GOD. YOU ARE RIGHT. HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN BLIND FOR SO LONG?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Look at the previous posts. It was implying coz I don't believe I still have a belief. As in a religious belief. It's quite simple really. I have a disbelief not a belief. That's it, period, full stop. Why use the word belief lol.... Coz it's a little ambiguous when talking about religion. Why use belief when the word disbelief will do. Bloody fools u lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) Look at the previous posts. It was implying coz I don't believe I still have a belief. You do, and it is in fact a belief. As in a religious belief. It's quite simple really. I have a disbelief not a belief. That's it, period, full stop. Why use the word belief lol.... Coz it's a little ambiguous when talking about religion. Why use belief when the word disbelief will do. Bloody fools u lot It is possible to have a religious devotion to something that isn't a religion. Some people make devotion to sports a kind of religion, Elvis fans sometimes make their fandom a kind of religion, and some atheists make atheism a kind of religion. The point being made is that atheist ideology can become something that the person that holds to those beliefs are the things that they give the most worth to, and it becomes the meaning of their existence. Someone that cannot properly spell English should call others fools. Edited August 5, 2013 by KnightofChrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Not* lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 lol :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I believe that there is fish in a can of tuna. Yes it's a belief but it's not a belief system. There's a massive difference between a belief and a religion (a belief system) Your faith has led you astray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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