KnightofChrist Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Pope Francis thinking about declaring Pius XII a saint Source: http://www.ewtnnews.com/catholic-news/Vatican.php?id=8193#ixzz2ajfvf0te Pope Francis is considering whether he will make Pope Pius XII a saint, in the same way that he approved the cause of John XXIII. A source who works at the Vatican’s Congregation for Causes of Saints, who asked for anonymity, told EWTN News July 25 that “just as Pope Francis moved ahead with John XXIII’s canonization, he is considering the same thing for Pius XII.†According to the normal procedures, Pius XII would be beatified once a miracle attributed to his intercession is officially certified by a team of doctors and recognized by a commission of cardinals. But if Pope Francis decides to go ahead without a miracle, he could “even canonize him with the formula of scientia certa (certainty in knowledge), thereby jumping over the step of beatification,†the source said. “Only the Pope is able to do it, and he will, if he wants to.†Pope Francis is very interested in Pius XII because “he considers him ‘a great,’ in the same way as John XXIII is, even if for different reasons,†the source explained. But there is also a historical reason that Pope Francis is interested in Pius XII. When Pope Paul VI started the beatification and canonization process in 1967, nine years after Pius XII’s death, he formed a committee of historians to conduct an in-depth study of his predecessor’s life and behavior, giving particular attention to the events of World War II. The committee was made up of four Jesuits: Fathers Pierre Blet (France), Angelo Martini (Italy), Burkhart Schneider (Germany), and Robert A. Graham (United States). Their work led to the publication of “Actes et Documents du Saint Siège relatifs à la Seconde Guerre Mondiale†(Acts and Documents of the Holy See related to the Second World War), an 11-volume collection of documents from the Vatican’s Secret Archive about Pius XII’s papacy during that tumultuous time. Yet, the remainder of the documents from Pius XII’s papacy is not expected to be released until 2014 – the time it will take to organize the papers. The completed catalog will include approximately 16 million documents from Pius XII's papacy (1939-1958). Pope Benedict XVI initially decided to postpone Pius XII's cause for sainthood and advocated waiting until the archives would be open for researchers in 2014. But Benedict changed his mind and declared Pius XII Venerable on Dec. 19, 2009, based on the recommendation of the committee investigating his cause. Continue reading: http://www.ewtnnews.com/catholic-news/Vatican.php?id=8193#ixzz2ajgSV52T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Good for him if Pope Francis does. He gets such an unfair rep as "Hitler's Pope" when he was doing as much as he could while remaining neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytherese Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) I did my senior paper on how Pope Pius XII, contrary to popular belief saved numerous Jews and encouraged others to do the same. He's a hero who most historians refuse to honor despite compelling evidence. Edited August 2, 2013 by tinytherese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Awesome. I don't know much about the whole WWII situation, but even leaving that aside, he was an excellent Pope in my opinion. Edited August 2, 2013 by Amppax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ContemporaryCaflicCrusader Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I have a relic of this guy. Literally it was hanging around in my alcoholic bosses desk. He said he had no clue how it got there. And if he didn't know me he would take it to eBay. The building has only been up almost 30 years and your (me) the most Catholic thing ever to walk through those doors. No one man did more to save the lives of Jewish people during his time. He hid something like 200 Jews a day in the papal palace during Nazi occupation knowing what the consequences would be if they caught him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I don't see any problem with Pope Pius XII being declared a saint, but I also do not see any reason to rush things. It's not like he's going to go anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I don't see any problem with Pope Pius XII being declared a saint, but I also do not see any reason to rush things. It's not like he's going to go anywhere. Not necessarily. He could go somewhere. There is the precedent of Pope Formosus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Not necessarily. He could go somewhere. There is the precedent of Pope Formosus. Are you saying Pope Pius should be dug up and put on trial, and if convicted of a crime of some sort thrown into the Tiber River? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Are you saying Pope Pius should be dug up and put on trial, and if convicted of a crime of some sort thrown into the Tiber River? No, but he could be, maybe they want to canonize him before he goes anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted August 2, 2013 Author Share Posted August 2, 2013 He was making a lame ewwwwwwwwwwww joke. But it's Era so what can you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 No, but he could be, maybe they want to canonize him before he goes anywhere. The Church hasn't had a good cadaver synod in centuries. I bet it would be a major media sensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 The Church hasn't had a good cadaver synod in centuries. I bet it would be a major media sensation. It'd be awesome, Nancy Grace would be all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 It'd be amesome, Nancy Grace would be all over it. Yes. And perhaps she could do an interview with the cadaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Nancy Grace's first question to the cadaver: "What do you have to say in your own defense?" Edited August 2, 2013 by Apotheoun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Yes. And perhaps she could do an interview with the cadaver. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Uy7grh_BZu8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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