Thomas Michael Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 (edited) [quote name='shinobininjasp' date='Jun 2 2004, 07:27 AM'] I'm currently Methodist, though I'm converting to Catholicism. Just so you know, the Methodist church does not condone homosexuality, but it seems that the leadership is unwilling to protest it too much right now. [/quote] While they don't condone homosexuality, they DO support gay rights somewhat... [url="http://www.umc.org/interior.asp?mid=1753"]http://www.umc.org/interior.asp?mid=1753[/url] And I personally have nothing against Methodists. Edited June 2, 2004 by Thomas Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeraMaria Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 [quote name='Phazzan' date='Jun 2 2004, 11:17 AM'] Patetico = Pathetic? [/quote] Good job. Don't be , be because you understoof Spanish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thicke Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 [quote name='Phazzan' date='Jun 2 2004, 09:10 AM'] Catholics are good, Methodists are evil. [/quote] Thanks man.....I'm glad you cleared that up for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 k4th0l1x0r Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 As a former United Methodist, which is what I'm assuming you're talking about when you say Methodist, I'll put it to you the way it is. The UMC is to the Episcopal church what the Episcopal church is to the Catholic Church. The UMC kicks the ritual aspect down a notch while still being liturgical. There's a slight evangelical influence to it also, which comes from one of the churches absorbed when the Methodist church became the United Methodist church. As far as doctrine and morality go, it's scary how they've succeeded at leaving most issues up in the air. In an effort to not alienate anyone, they 'discourage' many practices but do not outright condemn them. This goes for abortion, homosexuality, etc. This is one of the reasons I left that church. I read the Book of Discipline, the United Methodist version of the Catechism, trying to find out the UMC's stances on major issues. I was left less certain of their morality after reading it than I was before. I'm sure this indefiniteness on morality is going to split the UMC within a decade. As far as StMichael's comment on it being rather social, he is pretty accurate. Every Methodist church I've been to does a good job of running social events and keeping people connected. Even though they do this well, it's a property of the church that isn't connected to doctrine or morality, but rather to how the church administratively works. They do take the social aspect too far though. For example, I went back to the Methodist church to which my parents go and was appalled by the amount of talking going on before the service until the minister got up to start the service. I felt like i was in a 4th grade classroom and the teacher had to bang on the chalk board to get everyone to shut up. And they do have a kiss of peace (they don't call it that), but it lasted about 2 minutes long and people were moving all around the church and the noise level went even higher than it was before the service. Anyways, I'm probably starting to sound like I'm on a rant. There are really good people in the Methodist church (but the really good ones become Catholic and even some good conservative parishes. The church as a whole, though, seems to be promoting a more social agenda and is becoming rather bland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathgirl Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 [quote name='Ash Wednesday' date='Jun 2 2004, 01:19 AM'] Our local Methodist church proudly touts their lesbian pastor who lives with her partner. They recently got "married" in Oregon. [/quote] :irate: :skitzo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Whoops, I was mistaken. She's no longer pastor here, and the Methodists are reconsidering her position after a judicial council overruled her acquittal by a Methodist court in March. So homosexuality is an ongoing sticky issue with Methodists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Yes, the Methodist Church tries to include lesbians and gays in the congregation. From my understanding (and the degree of this being true varies from one church to the next), the Methodist Church seeks to include such people with the idea that, if they are coming to church, it will be easier to eventually get them to change their ways. It's an effort to get people to come to church who might feel they are being condemned elsewhere. It's not to condone their behavior, but simply to show them Christ's love and then to teach them the error of their ways. Unfortunatly, this isn't always followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellenita Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 [quote]I believe the Methodists are basically American Anglicans. [/quote] [quote]Doh... I'm an idiot. Someone had just told me that a few days ago too. [/quote] It's an easy mistake to make Jasjis though.....if you walked into a low anglican service you'd be hard put to tell it wasn't methodist! They are very similar, in much the same way as people who don't know the difference might mistake high anglican with catholics.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeraMaria Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 [quote name='cathgirl' date='Jun 2 2004, 01:58 PM'] :irate: :skitzo: [/quote] agreed :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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