Era Might Posted July 31, 2013 Author Share Posted July 31, 2013 Just read this book - "Finding God in All Things: A Companion to the Spiritual Exercises of St Ignatius". It goes through each "Week" of the Exercises and each chapter has questions for prayer and discussion. Truly amazing book and I definitely recommend it. http://www.amazon.com/Finding-God-All-Things-Companion/dp/0877934606 How can someone live Jesuit spirituality as a lay person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) St. Ignatius, interestingly, was converted in the hospital, after a great life-threatening injury. The Great Physician is central to his story. :) So does that mean he rejects the Tridentine teaching on grace as a created habitus in favor of the incarnational theology of the East, which sees the incarnation as occurring in all of Christ's followers? Edited July 31, 2013 by Apotheoun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 So does that mean he rejects the Tridentine teaching on grace as a created habitus in favor of the incarnational theology of the East, which sees the incarnation as occurring in all of Christ's followers? This is all Greek to me. :| Yes, sorry about that, couldn't resist. :hehe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 This is all Greek to me. :| Yes, sorry about that, couldn't resist. :hehe: Greek, like this: Καὶ ὠλόγος σὰÏξ á¼Î³Îνετο καὶ á¼ÏƒÎºÎ®Î½Ï‰ÏƒÎµÎ½ á¼Î½ ἡμῖν. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted July 31, 2013 Author Share Posted July 31, 2013 So does that mean he rejects the Tridentine teaching on grace as a created habitus in favor of the incarnational theology of the East, which sees the incarnation as occurring in all of Christ's followers? I'm not sure, but he did the work that Jesus commanded his disciples to do: love him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I'm not sure, but he did the work that Jesus commanded his disciples to do: love him. That's cool. He still seems (and sounds) very Western to my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 That's because he is Western. It's no biggie. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spem in alium Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 How can someone live Jesuit spirituality as a lay person? This book actually explains how. In the introduction, the author (William A. Barry, SJ) states that what concerns him is "the fact that many, if not most, people who have heard about the Spiritual Exercises think of them as something esoteric, something reserved for novices or vowed members of religious communities, for holy people, or at least for people who can get away to a retreat house for an extended period of time. Such an image has, unfortunately, kept a treasure from broad use in the church. This book will, I hope, dispel that image and invite readers to consider how they might use the Spiritual Exercises to benefit their relationship with God." The book follows the Exercises in inviting people to: learn to trust God, and from this trust form the desire for God to reveal their sins and sinful tendencies so that they can repent; to realise that, in spite of their sin, Jesus loves them, and to use such a realisation to want to know Jesus better in the hope of following him more closely; to accompany Christ in the suffering and agony of his passion and death; to share the joy of his resurrection; and finally, to foster the deep desire in the person to know how much God loves them so they can return this love in some way and ultimately find God in all things. Finding God in all things is something I believe both religious and lay people are capable of achieving. Though it does take commitment, certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oremoose Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) Greek, like this: Καὶ ὠλόγος σὰÏξ á¼Î³Îνετο καὶ á¼ÏƒÎºÎ®Î½Ï‰ÏƒÎµÎ½ á¼Î½ ἡμῖν. I have not studied Greek in years and I can still read this :| Edited July 31, 2013 by Oremoose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithLuin Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 St. Ignatius of Loyola has three famous prayers, and since it's still his feast day in California time, I thought I'd add them to this thread now. The Suscipe Take, Lord, and receive all my liberty, my memory, my understandingand my entire will,All I have and call my own. You have given all to me.To you, Lord, I return it. Everything is yours; do with it what you will.Give me only your love and your grace.That is enough for me. Anima Christi Soul of Christ, sanctify me Body of Christ, save meWater from the side of Christ, wash mePassion of Christ, strengthen meGood Jesus, hear meWithin the wounds, shelter mefrom turning away, keep meFrom the evil one, protect meAt the hour of my death, call meInto your presence lead meto praise you with all your saintsForever and everAmen And one that is known to Jesuit students everywhere, the Prayer for Generosity Lord, teach me to be generous.Teach me to serve you as you deserve;to give and not to count the cost,to fight and not to heed the wounds,to toil and not to seek for rest,to labor and not to ask for reward,save that of knowing that I do your will. Of course, these were all translated from the Latin, so there are many possible variations. AMDG = Ad majorem Dei gloriam (For the Greater Glory of God) is the Jesuit's motto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted August 2, 2013 Author Share Posted August 2, 2013 This book actually explains how. In the introduction, the author (William A. Barry, SJ) states that what concerns him is "the fact that many, if not most, people who have heard about the Spiritual Exercises think of them as something esoteric, something reserved for novices or vowed members of religious communities, for holy people, or at least for people who can get away to a retreat house for an extended period of time. Such an image has, unfortunately, kept a treasure from broad use in the church. This book will, I hope, dispel that image and invite readers to consider how they might use the Spiritual Exercises to benefit their relationship with God." The book follows the Exercises in inviting people to: learn to trust God, and from this trust form the desire for God to reveal their sins and sinful tendencies so that they can repent; to realise that, in spite of their sin, Jesus loves them, and to use such a realisation to want to know Jesus better in the hope of following him more closely; to accompany Christ in the suffering and agony of his passion and death; to share the joy of his resurrection; and finally, to foster the deep desire in the person to know how much God loves them so they can return this love in some way and ultimately find God in all things. Finding God in all things is something I believe both religious and lay people are capable of achieving. Though it does take commitment, certainly. St. Ignatius of Loyola has three famous prayers, and since it's still his feast day in California time, I thought I'd add them to this thread now. The Suscipe Take, Lord, and receive all my liberty, my memory, my understandingand my entire will,All I have and call my own. You have given all to me.To you, Lord, I return it. Everything is yours; do with it what you will.Give me only your love and your grace.That is enough for me. Anima Christi Soul of Christ, sanctify me Body of Christ, save meWater from the side of Christ, wash mePassion of Christ, strengthen meGood Jesus, hear meWithin the wounds, shelter mefrom turning away, keep meFrom the evil one, protect meAt the hour of my death, call meInto your presence lead meto praise you with all your saintsForever and everAmen And one that is known to Jesuit students everywhere, the Prayer for Generosity Lord, teach me to be generous.Teach me to serve you as you deserve;to give and not to count the cost,to fight and not to heed the wounds,to toil and not to seek for rest,to labor and not to ask for reward,save that of knowing that I do your will. Of course, these were all translated from the Latin, so there are many possible variations. AMDG = Ad majorem Dei gloriam (For the Greater Glory of God) is the Jesuit's motto. Thanks. :) A good article on Blessed Pierre Favre, one of the original companions of St. Ignatius. Today is his Feast day: http://www.thinkingfaith.org/articles/20130802_1.htm Favre’s apostolic style was based around friendships, engaging in spiritual conversation, hearing confessions and giving the Exercises. He becomes that good shepherd, willing to go out, to travel the highways and byways in search of the ‘lost sheep’. He walks miles between cities, and within cities, seeking out conversation, trusting always that God is at work. He explains how, on journeys, he seeks to be alert to opportunities around him: While staying in inns, I have always felt inspired to do good by instructing and encouraging people… it is very good to leave in the inns and houses where we happen to stay some trace of good and holy behaviour, for everywhere there is good to be done, everywhere there is something to be planted or harvested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted August 2, 2013 Author Share Posted August 2, 2013 I didn't know the Anima Christi was Jesuit, they pray that at my parish after Mass, I love that prayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaD2006 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Era might: a bit more about the exercise A) you can do a week (even 5 days ... IVE does men and women retreats based on the exercises in a 5 day format. B) the full exercises take approx 30 days (can be up to 35 depending on the retreat house). You pray anywhere from 3-5 meditations for an hour daily. C) you can also do the 19th annotation - exercises in everyday life. That's a commitment to pray daily for about an hour for about 9 months. This usually involves meeting with a director once a week, and it may involve a monthly group meeting. It can vary a bit D) the exercises can be done in a preached (where the meditation is talked about to the whole group on retreat, and everyone is doing the same meditation) or in a directed format (where you meet one on one with the director and the director takes you through it). I prefer the 2nd format. Two books to recommend: A) the Jesuit guide to almost anything by Fr james martin sj B) meditation and contemplation by Fr tim gallagher omv (and you can also pick up "an ignatian introduction to prayer" which takes you through a number of scropture passages) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaD2006 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Pm me if you like .... I just finished the 30 days. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spem in alium Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Two books to recommend: A) the Jesuit guide to almost anything by Fr james martin sj Reading this right now. It's brilliant. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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