Winchester Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Somewhat thread relevant story based on this. Apparently some of my more..."active"...friends make it a rule "not to sleep with a virgin, because they get clingy and think virginity means something". I was horrified when I heard that, because I do feel it means something. However my best friend made his girlfriend at the time, assure him she wasn't a virgin, before they had sex. She lied and told him she wasn't. They're married now. All the cool stuff catholicsarekewl said...you just ruined that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 :huh: I never understand why girls lie about that. That's messed up. Also, do they really think he's not going to know when she's IN PAIN? HELLO. Again, the importance of reading comprehension: NO, that is not implying that. Me saying the ship has sailed means that while you were busy pleasing yourself to thoughts of dominating some mythical virgin on your wedding night, real girls were having real sex. Meaning, good luck finding that perfect, Caucasian, non-depressed-or-otherwise-mentally-inferior virgin of your dreams who (important:) wants to marry you and let you pop her hymen. It probably won't happen. TL;DR: That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you're never going to GET laid, not that you have never BEEN laid. I think we all understand that there's no chance in hell that you've had sex. :like: I hope you wrap your hands before you strike like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Hosea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriela Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Did you know that if you listen to "Revolution 9" backwards, you can hear John Lennon saying, "this thread needs to be closed already, seriously. Also, Paul is dead." rotfl :lol4: rotfl :lol4: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Hosea. Props. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the171 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I only read through 20 pages of this BS- so someone may have already covered this, but frankly I was too irritated to read the rest of this gibberish. I am going to say this for the benefit of lurkers and other posters. A virgin rape or incest victim is still a virgin in the eyes of the Church and thus of God. Your standard is irrelevant, but you are not the measure of truth. Your reasoning of psychological problems would be the same if she wasn't penetrated in her abuse. So then you would have to eliminate anyone who had any sort of sexual abuse. So your kink to make sure your wife has a hymen when you get married is a separate issue. But own it- don't victim shame because you have a particular twist. I will tell you right now, rape victims are some of the most courageous people with a absolute determination to survive. That determination would make an amazing wife that would stick it through thick and thin. We are not some sort of cancer to a marriage. Nor should we be punished for the action of another person- that is purely unjust. At the risk of being uncharitable, I will stop here. But your ignorance is mind blowing. Please be careful how you speak about survivors in the future- you never know who is one and how deeply you may hurt them with your words. Oh an your griping about other people giving you a hard time about your "standard"- you put this on the Debate Table. Not us. Hey! I love you. Kthxbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the171 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Israel was a floozie and God still loved her, aka Hosea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I only read through 20 pages of this BS- so someone may have already covered this, but frankly I was too irritated to read the rest of this gibberish. I am going to say this for the benefit of lurkers and other posters. A virgin rape or incest victim is still a virgin in the eyes of the Church and thus of God. Your standard is irrelevant, but you are not the measure of truth. Your reasoning of psychological problems would be the same if she wasn't penetrated in her abuse. So then you would have to eliminate anyone who had any sort of sexual abuse. So your kink to make sure your wife has a hymen when you get married is a separate issue. But own it- don't victim shame because you have a particular twist. I will tell you right now, rape victims are some of the most courageous people with a absolute determination to survive. That determination would make an amazing wife that would stick it through thick and thin. We are not some sort of cancer to a marriage. Nor should we be punished for the action of another person- that is purely unjust. At the risk of being uncharitable, I will stop here. But your ignorance is mind blowing. Please be careful how you speak about survivors in the future- you never know who is one and how deeply you may hurt them with your words. Oh an your griping about other people giving you a hard time about your "standard"- you put this on the Debate Table. Not us. :love: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicsAreKewl Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Lol we gotta thank the op. I've never seen pm so unified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleWaySoul Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I like to think that I am more valuable and on a higher tier in the world than some junkie under a bridge who is shooting up his drug of choice. Luke 18:9-14 That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleWaySoul Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Human beings aren't casino slot machines. We all offer something different to the world because no two people are alike. Mental illness is extremely common (affecting around a quarter of the population at some point in their lives) and with your attitude, you have closed yourself off to a quarter of this planet, assuming that just because they're poorly they must be somehow dangerous and bad and risky. Not so. Many people with MH problems may have become unusually compassionate, warm-hearted, and insightful people, due in large part to the struggles they have faced, while plenty of people whom you call 'normal' could be the most callous individuals going. You pride yourself on your normality (your attitudes actually aren't normal, by the way) but you have written things that are cruel as well as just untrue. I have a friend who has suffered from severe mental illness who is so kind and thoughtful to everyone. She's happily married. Her husband is lucky to have her. You'd be blessed if you found someone like her, but your stringent demands and insistence on treating marriage as like a business (with your sexual fetishes at the heart) mean that you will never experience the love that they have, not so long as you cling to these ideas. Not long after they got married, my friend developed a severe physical health condition that has now left her bedbound. Often she is too ill even to go to the bathroom. Her husband has to change her diapers. Neither she nor him were prepared for that at the time of her marriage, but they are happy because they love one another. As others have pointed out, there is a reason why the wedding vows are 'in sickness and in health' and 'for better and for worse'. Either you or your perfect white tall virgin spouse might develop mental health problems at some point in your lives. Your perfect white tall virgin fiancee might be raped prior to your wedding. We don't get to predict what will happen in life or what we get out of it, the key is to love God and one another no matter what happens to us in it, and this seems to be an area where you're failing. From what you've written about your own history, you have a lot to learn about forgiveness and healing before you're ready to marry anybody, no matter how closely she matches your 'requirements' or not - and as many, many women have pointed out to you on this thread, your attitudes are likely to send any woman running for the hills. Not because they're all slutty and you and Norseman are the last bastion of decent Catholic morality out there, because you come across as hyper-controlling, disturbingly fixated on being the 'first one in' (oh, I remember a few guys on my campus who had this fetish and used to deliberately hit on religious girls in the hope of fulfilling it - you're no less creepy), and just plain unloving. Can I just. There aren't words for how much I love this post. Thank you, beatitude :love: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleWaySoul Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 This is so sugar-coated I now have diabetes. brb, dying rotfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleWaySoul Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 This...is the most amazing thing on earth. Also, if you haven't seen The Room...it's the best worst movie ever made. OH HAI DOGGIE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ForaBSjKXic I. LOVE. YOU. YOU ARE TEARING ME APART, LISA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia13 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I would never marry a virgin. <--- See, you have to play hard to get. Virgins love that. Marry me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleWaySoul Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 :amen: From over-concern for my own comfort, Save me, Lord. From irritation at inconvenience, Save me, Lord. From distress over first-world problems, Save me, Lord. From blindness to how I can help, Save me, Lord. From self-indulgence when others are in need, Save me, Lord. From a desire to do good so that I feel good about myself, Save me, Lord. Thank you, Lord, for your compassion, even when mine is lacking. :amen: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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