Socrates Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 While I don't have the time nor the desire to read through 20+ pages of whining, bickering, and butthurt, thought I'd give my $.02 on the subject, then bolt. 1) Virginity before marriage is itself a good thing, and there is certainly nothing wrong with desiring or preferring a virgin for one's spouse. And yes, virgins do still exist, even in this day and age. And no, they're not all losers or ugly-looking. My wife was a virgin when I married her. Your chances of landing a virgin are increased substantially if you attend a solid Catholic college (such as Christendom), attend solidly Catholic or Christian events, or use a good Catholic "dating" site such as Ave Maria Singles, or CatholicMatch.com. (I found my wife on Ave Maria.) If you regard those avenues as too "dorky," beneath you, or too much trouble, then that's your problem - stop complaining. 2) That said, I wouldn't automatically rule out all non-virgins. Unless you happen to be Jesus Christ Himself, you yourself are not morally above reproach. There's a difference between someone who's made mistakes in the past, and has genuinely repented and trying to start over again, and someone who's living a promiscuous lifestyle, and shows no intention of changing her ways. Some guys can be hypocritical jerks about this (I knew one dude who had little concern for sexual morality in his own life, and didn't think men should be virgins before marriage, yet insisted that he could only marry a virgin.) Jesus Christ forgave the woman caught in adultery, while some Catholics apparently are unwilling to forgive over less. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. 3) Whining on here about not being able to get a virgin will do nothing to get you a woman, virginal or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 OP's profile picture made me chuckle. That's all I'm going to say about it. Seriously bro, the only place I can think of where you're going to meet a lady who meets your "qualifications" is on a website I can't link here, because it's a sedevacantist dating service. The only place you're going to find a nice pool of "eligible maidens" is in places so strict they don't even count as Catholic anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister Marie Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I think it's interesting you haven't replied to anything I've written, since its been quoted numerous times through this thread... Could it be because I'm not the first person to suggest you need therapy for your attitude? I linked to the exact same post you made on caf... Where you were also told to seek therapy. The same thing happened there. It seems like you are looking for someone to agree with your demeaning and disgusting attitude towards women, not for help at all. You will never be happy living with this attitude of domination, selfishness, and narcissism. I'm not saying this to be mean but because I am very sad for the loss of your future to this worldview, if you choose to live out of it. (there is always the time and grace to change!). If you ever find someone willing to marry you with this attitude, I am confident that it will be an unhealthy marriage. I don't care ifyouwant to marry a virgin. You are not entitled to any woman's sexuality or person. Love is a selfless gift. I am really going to pray that God converts your heart and that until that time, wisdom and discernment guide the hearts of any women who interact with you. You are sinful, like I am too. None of us are virgins to sin. Yet our God doesn't stomp his feet and demand perfection... He becomes man, lives totally for us and then marries us, the Church. He doesn't do this though until after we brutally kill him. Are you living with the heart of God? Let him love you and then see if you can still DEMAND that you DESERVE a virgin, a white woman... If you look with Gods eyes and feel with his heart you will not be able to say the things you have said in this thread. I think that all of us should spend our time praying for this young man because he does not know the love with which the Father loves and that is the saddest part of this thread. Maybe you could share your prayer for him publicly if you feel inclined to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 While I don't have the time nor the desire to read through 20+ pages of whining, bickering, and butthurt, thought I'd give my $.02 on the subject, then bolt. 1) Virginity before marriage is itself a good thing, and there is certainly nothing wrong with desiring or preferring a virgin for one's spouse. And yes, virgins do still exist, even in this day and age. And no, they're not all losers or ugly-looking. My wife was a virgin when I married her. Your chances of landing a virgin are increased substantially if you attend a solid Catholic college (such as Christendom), attend solidly Catholic or Christian events, or use a good Catholic "dating" site such as Ave Maria Singles, or CatholicMatch.com. (I found my wife on Ave Maria.) If you regard those avenues as too "dorky," beneath you, or too much trouble, then that's your problem - stop complaining. 2) That said, I wouldn't automatically rule out all non-virgins. Unless you happen to be Jesus Christ Himself, you yourself are not morally above reproach. There's a difference between someone who's made mistakes in the past, and has genuinely repented and trying to start over again, and someone who's living a promiscuous lifestyle, and shows no intention of changing her ways. Some guys can be hypocritical jerks about this (I knew one dude who had little concern for sexual morality in his own life, and didn't think men should be virgins before marriage, yet insisted that he could only marry a virgin.) Jesus Christ forgave the woman caught in adultery, while some Catholics apparently are unwilling to forgive over less. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. 3) Whining on here about not being able to get a virgin will do nothing to get you a woman, virginal or otherwise. wow. props dude. :like: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisa Marie Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 While I don't have the time nor the desire to read through 20+ pages of whining, bickering, and butthurt, thought I'd give my $.02 on the subject, then bolt. 1) Virginity before marriage is itself a good thing, and there is certainly nothing wrong with desiring or preferring a virgin for one's spouse. And yes, virgins do still exist, even in this day and age. And no, they're not all losers or ugly-looking. My wife was a virgin when I married her. Your chances of landing a virgin are increased substantially if you attend a solid Catholic college (such as Christendom), attend solidly Catholic or Christian events, or use a good Catholic "dating" site such as Ave Maria Singles, or CatholicMatch.com. (I found my wife on Ave Maria.) If you regard those avenues as too "dorky," beneath you, or too much trouble, then that's your problem - stop complaining. 2) That said, I wouldn't automatically rule out all non-virgins. Unless you happen to be Jesus Christ Himself, you yourself are not morally above reproach. There's a difference between someone who's made mistakes in the past, and has genuinely repented and trying to start over again, and someone who's living a promiscuous lifestyle, and shows no intention of changing her ways. Some guys can be hypocritical jerks about this (I knew one dude who had little concern for sexual morality in his own life, and didn't think men should be virgins before marriage, yet insisted that he could only marry a virgin.) Jesus Christ forgave the woman caught in adultery, while some Catholics apparently are unwilling to forgive over less. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. 3) Whining on here about not being able to get a virgin will do nothing to get you a woman, virginal or otherwise. :clapping: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 As a woman taking medicine for a mental illness, I'm also pretty offended that the OP wouldn't even consider marrying a woman with one. I think we've just all come to the conclusion that he's an unapologietic bigot. So, to recap: 1. Women, you are a damaged piece of property if you are not a virgin. This includes if you were raped. 2. You better be white because white is the color of awesome and amazing and brown people are weird and stuff 3. If you have a mental illness, lol bye weirdo Anything I miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleWaySoul Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 You will never be happy living with this attitude of domination, selfishness, and narcissism. I'm not saying this to be mean but because I am very sad for the loss of your future to this worldview, if you choose to live out of it. (there is always the time and grace to change!). If you ever find someone willing to marry you with this attitude, I am confident that it will be an unhealthy marriage. I don't care ifyouwant to marry a virgin. You are not entitled to any woman's sexuality or person. Love is a selfless gift. I think that all of us should spend our time praying for this young man because he does not know the love with which the Father loves and that is the saddest part of this thread. Maybe you could share your prayer for him publicly if you feel inclined to. I agree. :amen: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosieranna Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I think we've just all come to the conclusion that he's an unapologietic bigot. So, to recap: 1. Women, you are a damaged piece of property if you are not a virgin. This includes if you were raped. 2. You better be white because white is the color of amesome and amazing and brown people are weird and stuff 3. If you have a mental illness, lol bye weirdo Anything I miss? Oh, oh! He said no shorties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 You are not entitled to any woman's sexuality or person. Love is a selfless gift. Yes he is! He's a big strong man lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleWaySoul Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I think we've just all come to the conclusion that he's an unapologietic bigot. So, to recap: 1. Women, you are a damaged piece of property if you are not a virgin. This includes if you were raped. 2. You better be white because white is the color of amesome and amazing and brown people are weird and stuff 3. If you have a mental illness, lol bye weirdo Anything I miss? This post made me chuckle :hehe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 While I don't have the time nor the desire to read through 20+ pages of whining, bickering, and butthurt, thought I'd give my $.02 on the subject, then bolt. 1) Virginity before marriage is itself a good thing, and there is certainly nothing wrong with desiring or preferring a virgin for one's spouse. And yes, virgins do still exist, even in this day and age. And no, they're not all losers or ugly-looking. My wife was a virgin when I married her. Your chances of landing a virgin are increased substantially if you attend a solid Catholic college (such as Christendom), attend solidly Catholic or Christian events, or use a good Catholic "dating" site such as Ave Maria Singles, or CatholicMatch.com. (I found my wife on Ave Maria.) If you regard those avenues as too "dorky," beneath you, or too much trouble, then that's your problem - stop complaining. 2) That said, I wouldn't automatically rule out all non-virgins. Unless you happen to be Jesus Christ Himself, you yourself are not morally above reproach. There's a difference between someone who's made mistakes in the past, and has genuinely repented and trying to start over again, and someone who's living a promiscuous lifestyle, and shows no intention of changing her ways. Some guys can be hypocritical jerks about this (I knew one dude who had little concern for sexual morality in his own life, and didn't think men should be virgins before marriage, yet insisted that he could only marry a virgin.) Jesus Christ forgave the woman caught in adultery, while some Catholics apparently are unwilling to forgive over less. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. 3) Whining on here about not being able to get a virgin will do nothing to get you a woman, virginal or otherwise. I wish we had props. :like: :like: :like: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosieranna Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 While I don't have the time nor the desire to read through 20+ pages of whining, bickering, and butthurt, thought I'd give my $.02 on the subject, then bolt. 1) Virginity before marriage is itself a good thing, and there is certainly nothing wrong with desiring or preferring a virgin for one's spouse. And yes, virgins do still exist, even in this day and age. And no, they're not all losers or ugly-looking. My wife was a virgin when I married her. Your chances of landing a virgin are increased substantially if you attend a solid Catholic college (such as Christendom), attend solidly Catholic or Christian events, or use a good Catholic "dating" site such as Ave Maria Singles, or CatholicMatch.com. (I found my wife on Ave Maria.) If you regard those avenues as too "dorky," beneath you, or too much trouble, then that's your problem - stop complaining. 2) That said, I wouldn't automatically rule out all non-virgins. Unless you happen to be Jesus Christ Himself, you yourself are not morally above reproach. There's a difference between someone who's made mistakes in the past, and has genuinely repented and trying to start over again, and someone who's living a promiscuous lifestyle, and shows no intention of changing her ways. Some guys can be hypocritical jerks about this (I knew one dude who had little concern for sexual morality in his own life, and didn't think men should be virgins before marriage, yet insisted that he could only marry a virgin.) Jesus Christ forgave the woman caught in adultery, while some Catholics apparently are unwilling to forgive over less. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. 3) Whining on here about not being able to get a virgin will do nothing to get you a woman, virginal or otherwise. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrideofChrist Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I think we've just all come to the conclusion that he's an unapologietic bigot. So, to recap: 1. Women, you are a damaged piece of property if you are not a virgin. This includes if you were raped. 2. You better be white because white is the color of amesome and amazing and brown people are weird and stuff 3. If you have a mental illness, lol bye weirdo Anything I miss? You missed the fact that he's okay with masturbation, porn, and all the other sexual sins and thinks if he indulges in them he can still consider himself a virgin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 What are you going to do when your wife ignores you because, well, who knows why, she just does? What are you going to do when you've been married 10 years and that virgin isn't a virgin anymore, and you're condemned to a lifetime of non-virgin sex with the same non-virgin? What are you going to do when the kids won't shut up and you lose your job and your wife wants to know where the money is? What are you going to do when your wife gets cancer and you're both virgins for the rest of your (young) lives? What are you going to do when your son dies and your wife checks out emotionally for the rest of her life? You think a woman having sex makes her suspect? There's a lot worse things that can and probably will happen during your marriage. Frankly, if a man can't handle that his wife enjoyed a pleasure in a different life, and he's too delicate to trust a woman who has needs and desires, then I think that man is suspect. I wouldn't trust him to hold the fort down when it all collapses around him. He's better off single and virgin where he can be safe in his idealism. 1) Apparently the tension is more common than may would care to admit. 2) Some of your examples (like if my wife gets cancer we will be virgins for the rest of our lives) are absolutely ludicrous. 3) Who set you up as judge someone to better be single and a virgin? When did the white smoke come out of YOUR chimney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleWaySoul Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Oh, oh! He said no shorties. Oh yeah! I forgot about that! OP, y u no like short women? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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