Finding Other Catholic Virgins?

[Lil Red]

Now I see the problem, you've confused Protestant Work Ethic with Catholicism. That's easily cured, read the Lives of the Popes, say ten Hail Marys, and watch live coverage of World Youth Day.

 

:hehe: serious props.

Edited July 23, 2013 by Lil Red

[Winchester]

 In exchange for years of school, I expect a decent job that isn't dangerous 

 

Why would any woman who resisted the temptations of the flesh settle for a milquetoast?

[Norseman82]

I was at a Theology on Tap talk last night about Catholic sexual ethics in the modern dating world.  There were three couples who shared their stories:  one married couple (who taught NFP) who both had sexual pasts before meeting each other (they were the givers of the talk), a married couple, both of whom were virgins on their wedding night (whom the male giver of the talk referred to as "did it right"), and (via recording), a virgin male engaged to a non-virgin female.  After the talk, with this thread in mind, I asked the male moderator (the one who had a sexual past before meeting his wife) if he encountered rejection from female virgins over his past.  He didn't directly answer the question, but he did say that previous sexual partners will add tension to a relationship, even after the virgin forgives the non-virgin, partially because, IN HIS WORDS, the "payback" wasn't there for the effort put forth (this comes from someone who did NOT stay a virgin for his wife). In fact, it adds to the tension if neither parties are virgins.  His thoughts were that in such unequal yokings, it's just a case that one is simply not compatible with the other (but they can still be friends).  

 

(I even recall reading that Jason Evert still felt pain even after forgiving and marrying his wife). 

 

So, if a virgin simply wants to avoid something that he/she knows will cause tension in a marriage to a non-virgin, don't fault him/her for it.

[polskieserce]

i've not once heard the OP talk about love. it's kind of important in a relationship, before you get to the marriage part. 

 

That is already assumed by default.  You can find more easily than you can find a virgin.  That's why the topic of this thread was where to find a virgin and not where to find love.  I don't want to be in love with a non-virgin, plain and simple.

 

 

(Emphasis mine)  What about those thinking lustful thoughts having committed the sin in their hearts?  So, you can have a nasty nasty heart but as long as you remain "pure" you're good to go?  I haven't had this much fun in a long time-you make it easy, hon.
 

 

As long as there was no physical action, I am fine with the girl.  Carnal lust is a given in the earlier parts of life.

 

If my future spouse is not a anime comic-con cosplayer and a furry, bye bye to you. 

 

You gotta know who kero-chan is to get me-.....chan...san...sensei.

 

Dragonball Z is where it's at,

[hoosieranna]

I was at a Theology on Tap talk last night about Catholic sexual ethics in the modern dating world.  There were three couples who shared their stories:  one married couple (who taught NFP) who both had sexual pasts before meeting each other (they were the givers of the talk), a married couple, both of whom were virgins on their wedding night (whom the male giver of the talk referred to as "did it right"), and (via recording), a virgin male engaged to a non-virgin female.  After the talk, with this thread in mind, I asked the male moderator (the one who had a sexual past before meeting his wife) if he encountered rejection from female virgins over his past.  He didn't directly answer the question, but he did say that previous sexual partners will add tension to a relationship, even after the virgin forgives the non-virgin, partially because, IN HIS WORDS, the "payback" wasn't there for the effort put forth (this comes from someone who did NOT stay a virgin for his wife). In fact, it adds to the tension if neither parties are virgins.  His thoughts were that in such unequal yokings, it's just a case that one is simply not compatible with the other (but they can still be friends).  

 

(I even recall reading that Jason Evert still felt pain even after forgiving and marrying his wife). 

 

So, if a virgin simply wants to avoid something that he/she knows will cause tension in a marriage to a non-virgin, don't fault him/her for it.

I don't think it's the "I'd rather marry a virgin" that's causing trouble.  It's the "I demand and am entitled to a Catholic virgin who will cater to my every whim."  Subtle difference, obviously, but important.

[Lil Red]

I was at a Theology on Tap talk last night about Catholic sexual ethics in the modern dating world.  There were three couples who shared their stories:  one married couple (who taught NFP) who both had sexual pasts before meeting each other (they were the givers of the talk), a married couple, both of whom were virgins on their wedding night (whom the male giver of the talk referred to as "did it right"), and (via recording), a virgin male engaged to a non-virgin female.  After the talk, with this thread in mind, I asked the male moderator (the one who had a sexual past before meeting his wife) if he encountered rejection from female virgins over his past.  He didn't directly answer the question, but he did say that previous sexual partners will add tension to a relationship, even after the virgin forgives the non-virgin, partially because, IN HIS WORDS, the "payback" wasn't there for the effort put forth (this comes from someone who did NOT stay a virgin for his wife). In fact, it adds to the tension if neither parties are virgins.  His thoughts were that in such unequal yokings, it's just a case that one is simply not compatible with the other (but they can still be friends).  

 

(I even recall reading that Jason Evert still felt pain even after forgiving and marrying his wife). 

 

So, if a virgin simply wants to avoid something that he/she knows will cause tension in a marriage to a non-virgin, don't fault him/her for it.

 

i don't agree that one or both spouses having had sex outside of marriage will always lead to tension within the relationship. it has to do with the persons, their personalities, their upbringings, their own ethical code, etc.  

[Norseman82]

But Joseph didn't know that until later.  

 

It took an angel coming to him in a dream to tell him it was by the Holy Spirit that Jesus was conceived; otherwise, he was going to divorce (in a bethrothal sense) Mary.

[Lil Red]

That is already assumed by default.  You can find more easily than you can find a virgin.  That's why the topic of this thread was where to find a virgin and not where to find love.  I don't want to be in love with a non-virgin, plain and simple.

 

actually, no, i don't believe that love is found as easily as you think.  

[truthfinder]

It took an angel coming to him in a dream to tell him it was by the Holy Spirit that Jesus was conceived; otherwise, he was going to divorce (in a bethrothal sense) Mary.

 

 

And that was exactly my point...

Edited July 23, 2013 by truthfinder

[polskieserce]

actually, no, i don't believe that love is found as easily as you think.  

 

I never said that love would come easily.  But it comes more easily than finding a virgin catholic girl.  Now if we are gonna talk fundamentalist girls, then it may be a little easier in that pool.  But like I said, the catholic church isn't in very good shape on this issue.

Edited July 23, 2013 by polskieserce

[Winchester]

I was at a Theology on Tap talk last night about Catholic sexual ethics in the modern dating world.  There were three couples who shared their stories:  one married couple (who taught NFP) who both had sexual pasts before meeting each other (they were the givers of the talk), a married couple, both of whom were virgins on their wedding night (whom the male giver of the talk referred to as "did it right"), and (via recording), a virgin male engaged to a non-virgin female.  After the talk, with this thread in mind, I asked the male moderator (the one who had a sexual past before meeting his wife) if he encountered rejection from female virgins over his past.  He didn't directly answer the question, but he did say that previous sexual partners will add tension to a relationship, even after the virgin forgives the non-virgin, partially because, IN HIS WORDS, the "payback" wasn't there for the effort put forth (this comes from someone who did NOT stay a virgin for his wife). In fact, it adds to the tension if neither parties are virgins.  His thoughts were that in such unequal yokings, it's just a case that one is simply not compatible with the other (but they can still be friends).  

 

(I even recall reading that Jason Evert still felt pain even after forgiving and marrying his wife). 

 

So, if a virgin simply wants to avoid something that he/she knows will cause tension in a marriage to a non-virgin, don't fault him/her for it.

 

 

Forgive?

[Norseman82]

i don't agree that one or both spouses having had sex outside of marriage will always lead to tension within the relationship. it has to do with the persons, their personalities, their upbringings, their own ethical code, etc.  

 

Some can handle it better than others.  If someone can't handle it, he or she can't handle it.  That  doesn't make him/her less of a Catholic/Christian as a result (unless one is being hypocritical about it).  But I've  posted examples, and it was the male moderator who told me that theere  was some tension even in their relationship (when neither were virgins) and also for the virgin male engaged to the virgin female.

[Lil Red]

Some can handle it better than others.  If someone can't handle it, he or she can't handle it.  That  doesn't make him/her less of a Catholic/Christian as a result (unless one is being hypocritical about it).  But I've  posted examples, and it was the male moderator who told me that theere  was some tension even in their relationship (when neither were virgins) and also for the virgin male engaged to the virgin female.

 

yes, but his examples can't be applied across the board. 

[Norseman82]

Forgive?

 

That's right, even after forgiveness, the pain can still remain. 

[Lil Red]

i guess i'm missing the "joke" here. because 1 - I don't know what can of worms you're talking about and 2 - it sounds like you've just said that my parents should've used NFP so I wouldn't have been born. har har, flooping hilarious. 

 

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