ardillacid Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 And I'll echo what others have said. Rape happens everywhere, not just "bad parts of town". For example of a "good neighborhood" rape: the news media was bemoaning how "good kids" like the Steubenville rapists' lives had been ruined, barely paying attention to the fact they raped an unconscious girl repeatedly. It was horrifying, especially how so many people made an effort to make sure it wasn't brought to trial or public attention. Have you been to Steubenville? It is a shit hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 yknow this is a catholic forum with young catholics on it. and you said you wouldnt be opposed to meeting girls online. maybe you should ask around, there are surely lots of good single virgin catholics on here..... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 it is curious why u posted this on the debate board and not the open mic etc tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Because flamewar. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Have you been to Steubenville? It is a pothole. Yeah I've been there, I've also been to far worse places. Plus the university and some of the communities are pretty nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) Yes there are lost sheep in the holy catholic church, and than there are the prodigals whom have returned home realizing there folly. Possibly court around the catholic colleges (in Australia that is 16-18 year olds, unsure what that is in the states it may not be called college.) Edited July 20, 2013 by Tab'le Du'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) Witamy do Phatmass, polskieserce/psymajor. I read once on CAF about a website called virgin2virgin.com, but I think it changed to http://wewaited.com . I don't know if it is strictly for Catholics, though. Edited July 20, 2013 by Norseman82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 <EDIT> Yes there are lost sheep in the holy catholic church, and than there are the prodigals whom have returned home realizing there folly. Possibly court around the catholic colleges (in Australia that is 16-18 year olds, unsure what that is in the states it may not be called college.) Go to the car park after school and start chatting to people. But also i agree with what someone said about not discounting saving a lost sheep or helping a prodigal. But if you must, do the college car park play, there's nothing really wrong with courting there, put a nice stereo in your car and play your favored christian music up loud, but not to loud lol. :) Maybe i'm an idiot and am totally wrong, and someone will give you a more appropriate manner in finding a virgin bride. :) Onward christian souls. JESUS iz LORD. P.s. Actually i just realized your possibly in the U.S. are the school car parks fenced in ? If so you could do the same thing at the bus interchange just after school knocks off in the afternoon and chat to some young ladies wearing catholic school uniforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytherese Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Why don't you consider marrying a woman who had premarital sex but later repented? People can change. They shouldn't be looked down upon by what they did in the past, but by what they are doing in the present. Then there are those who are virgins but not by choice. Maybe they've even gone as far as they can go without losing their virginity, thinking that as long as they haven't gone all the way that they're okay. Maybe they don't see anything wrong with masturbation, pornography, dressing immodestly, talking dirty, making sex jokes, or engaging in impure thoughts, but still retain their virginity. Even those who are committed to living chastely struggle and sometimes fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlySunshine Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 All I have is this to say: If Jesus can have mercy on someone and bring them back to the fold, why should anyone else do any different? People make mistakes. You might miss out on the the perfect person for you just because she doesn't meet your standards. (and I am a virgin so I'm not biased) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polskieserce Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 Just some advice: your "no compromise" approach might lead to problems when you get married. Marriage is one compromise after another. I am fully aware that it is one compromise after another, and I'm willing to do that. But I'm not compromising on a fundamental trait that I want from a partner. Everyone has their list of deal-breakers in a partner that are strictly no-compromise issues. (A loaded question not intended as an attack:) What good does it do to date someone you wouldn't consider marrying? For many reasons, to date for the sake of dating (recreationally), to see what types of personality traits you like/dislike in a girl, and for a chance to build your social network a little. I had a really snarky answer for this, but I don't really know enough about the OP to be fair. I'm interested for an answer from him. Well what did I do to deserve a snarky answer? All I asked was a simple question as to the best places where I could find a virgin, that's it. I am a virgin myself, and it's common knowledge that like attracts like. First of all, welcome to Phatmass! :welcome: And secondly, I understand where you are something from. I'm glad there is another young person on this planet who thinks the same way I do. I think you have listed most of the places to find such a person. But, remember, God works in miraculous ways. You may find your spouse in a setting you never had imagined at a time you didn't expect. Definitely, I am always open to seeing if I find people in my general surroundings who I am compatible with. Your views are why rape is looked at as no big deal to suburban America. Cause it doesn't happen here to us white folk in these good rich neighborhoods. Your attitude is the reason girls in your neighbor type get raped and don't report it. Cause of people with your mindset that it doesn't happen, so if it does happen it must be the girls fault and she just needs to get over it an move on. This is why girls in upper class neighborhoods get raped and don't say anything. Attitudes just like yours. I am sorry to sound harsh but your statement is absolutely ignorant and insulting to how many women who have been raped in good neighborhoods. Sorry to throw your world for a loop but rape spans all age groups, socio-economic status, race, gender and so on. I never said that rape NEVER happens in nice neighborhoods. I just said it is much less common, which it is. I am just saying that of all the "sexual assaults" that take place, only a portion of them are actual vaginal rape cases. If a girl is molested, that can also count as sexual assault, even though it's not in the same league as rape and the incident did not claim her virginity. In my neighborhood, I don't see vans at every street corner with pedophiles waiting to strike. yknow this is a catholic forum with young catholics on it. and you said you wouldnt be opposed to meeting girls online. maybe you should ask around, there are surely lots of good single virgin catholics on here..... :D Certainly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I was a Catholic virgin on my wedding night 2 years ago at age 26. My husband found me on Catholic Match. But he wasn't looking for a virgin, only. I would not have dated and/or married someone who expressed your attitudes. I am sure you a good person, but good people don't necessarily make the best spouses. In some respects it's perfectly legitimate. You like what you like. But your inclusion of girls who have been raped (actually penetrated) as having "lost their virginity" is very troubling and reflects pagan influences. The church doesn't look at it the way the world does. Virginity is a spiritual state and key to "losing it" is full knowledge and consent. The virgin martyrs were typically raped before they were killed; this doesn't make them any less virgin. Aquinas says on this topic that "even if the woman thus violated conceives, she would not for that reason forfeit her virginity.†In evangelical Protestant circles it's not unusual for women to substitute sodomy for regular sex as a way of "preserving their virginity." Is a girl who has willingly engaged in sodomy but not vaginal intercourse still a true virgin, in the Church's eyes? Of course not. But that's where the flat-footed legalistic approach leads. Such a woman technically falls into your marriage-able category, because her hymen is intact. If the root of your concerns is insecurity about sexual performance (being compared to previous partners... your reference to being male specimen #24 seems to suggest this) a sex therapist or the person who conducts your premarital counseling can help you come to terms with it. Your virginity is something you are maintaining to glorify God and simply to avoid mortal sin. it is not a "gift" to be carefully hoarded for a future spouse. Nor is it a "gift" to be demanded as part of the marriage dowry, so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I never said that rape NEVER happens in nice neighborhoods. I just said it is much less common, which it is. I am just saying that of all the "sexual assaults" that take place, only a portion of them are actual vaginal rape cases. If a girl is molested, that can also count as sexual assault, even though it's not in the same league as rape and the incident did not claim her virginity. In my neighborhood, I don't see vans at every street corner with pedophiles waiting to strike. Certainly Since your obviously so educated on rape as you imply, where are these statistics about vaginal rape being only a small number of rapes? I would love to see facts to back up this claim. I imagine you would have them and not just say comments to back up your argument without verifying their truth. Are you serious? I am sorry man but you are SO ignorant of rape it not funny. This is sad. You think rapes only happen from pedophiles in vans. Just another reason why rich folk like yourself see no problem with rape and turn a blind eye to rape when it actually happens around you. Let me guess, you probably think its also the women's fault for being raped? I'm going to shock you here but rapists like in "rich" neighborhoods also. They don't only drive around in vans. They live in any house and go out with women and think they are entitled to sex because pick any reason and then rape the girl. I honestly hope you educate yourself on rape before you have children and have a little girl. Cause one day(hopefully never) she will come to you and say she was raped and the minute she tells you it was her rich boyfriend you won't believe her and yell at her for having sex because you know that rapists only rid in vans searching for women and no respectable rich person would ever rape. Your mindset is just an example of why it is so easy to get away with rape in rich neighborhoods. Cause you believe its not going to happen in the rich areas unless it from a so called outsider, so if a women does claim rape, well it must be her fault and she is doing it to cover up her sexual actions. Its all the women's fault, it could never be the rich neighbor next door. I wouldn't be surprised also if you believe a women who dresses immodestly is essentially asking to be raped and its all on her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I never said that rape NEVER happens in nice neighborhoods. I just said it is much less common, which it is. I am just saying that of all the "sexual assaults" that take place, only a portion of them are actual vaginal rape cases. If a girl is molested, that can also count as sexual assault, even though it's not in the same league as rape and the incident did not claim her virginity. In my neighborhood, I don't see vans at every street corner with pedophiles waiting to strike. Certainly Since your obviously so educated on rape as you imply, where are these statistics about vaginal rape being only a small number of rapes? I would love to see facts to back up this claim. I imagine you would have them and not just say comments to back up your argument without verifying their truth. Are you serious? I am sorry man but you are SO ignorant of rape it not funny. This is sad. You think rapes only happen from pedophiles in vans. Just another reason why rich folk like yourself see no problem with rape and turn a blind eye to rape when it actually happens around you. Let me guess, you probably think its also the women's fault for being raped? I'm going to shock you here but rapists like in "rich" neighborhoods also. They don't only drive around in vans. They live in any house and go out with women and think they are entitled to sex because pick any reason and then rape the girl. I honestly hope you educate yourself on rape before you have children and have a little girl. Cause one day(hopefully never) she will come to you and say she was raped and the minute she tells you it was her rich boyfriend you won't believe her and yell at her for having sex because you know that rapists only rid in vans searching for women and no respectable rich person would ever rape. Your mindset is just an example of why it is so easy to get away with rape in rich neighborhoods. Cause you believe its not going to happen in the rich areas unless it from a so called outsider, so if a women does claim rape, well it must be her fault and she is doing it to cover up her sexual actions. Its all the women's fault, it could never be the rich neighbor next door. I wouldn't be surprised also if you believe a women who dresses immodestly is essentially asking to be raped and its all on her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 where are these statistics about vaginal rape being only a small number of rapes? He did not say that or imply that. He said that it is a portion, less than 100%. Cool your jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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