HisChildForever Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Do you honestly think that jumping all over Polskieserce and telling people who are making the effort to do things the right way not to worry about sex after he had his fun is repentant? The issue is not his desire to marry a virgin, but his DEMANDING to marry a virgin, and his lumping all single (never-married) non-virgin women into the same category. Quite frankly, the underlying attitude of the OP seems to be that he just really wants to be the first one "there" - if you know what I mean. And that a woman who's already permitted (or been FORCED) "entrance" is stained, dirty, leftovers, whatever-other-insulting-description-you-can-think-of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) FYI, someone tipped me off to the OP's posting history on CAF. Unless OP is indeed genuine, I think we may have all been masterfully trolled. ;) source: http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=561434 Edited July 22, 2013 by arfink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicsAreKewl Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) The issue is not his desire to marry a virgin, but his DEMANDING to marry a virgin, and his lumping all single (never-married) non-virgin women into the same category. Quite frankly, the underlying attitude of the OP seems to be that he just really wants to be the first one "there" - if you know what I mean. And that a woman who's already permitted (or been FORCED) "entrance" is stained, dirty, leftovers, whatever-other-insulting-description-you-can-think-of. Lol, guys get so territorial over vulvas. I'm starting to understand why women would pay money for hymen reconstruction surgery. Edited July 22, 2013 by CatholicsAreKewl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Really man? REALLY? So, repentance doesn't count if you enjoyed yourself when you committed a sin? Well, let's all be on our marry way to hell then, arm in arm. This idea is genuinely disgusting. Please give it up. No, I don't consider a person repentant if he gives grief to others for wanting to partake legally that which he himself has partaken of illegally. At least that's how his post came off as. If wants to come back and apologize and clarify, I'll withdraw my objection, but until then the ball is in his court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 No, I don't consider a person repentant if he gives grief to others for wanting to partake legally that which he himself has partaken of illegally. At least that's how his post came off as. If wants to come back and apologize and clarify, I'll withdraw my objection, but until then the ball is in his court. Wait a minute: You're saying that it's OK for a man to objectify a woman (by giving love conditionally on account of her virginity or lack therof) because he does it inside of a marriage, but it's simultaneously not OK to objectify a woman (by giving love conditionally on account of her virginity or lack therof) because he did it outside of a marriage? You make no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 FYI, someone tipped me off to the OP's posting history on CAF. Unless OP is indeed genuine, I think we may have all been masterfully trolled. ;) source: http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=561434 Or maybe people here made him feel unwelcome and drove him away? I'd high-tail it out of a place if the minute I joined I was made to feel unwelcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Wait a minute: You're saying that it's OK for a man to objectify a woman (by giving love conditionally on account of her virginity or lack therof) because he does it inside of a marriage, but it's simultaneously not OK to objectify a woman (by giving love conditionally on account of her virginity or lack therof) because he did it outside of a marriage? You make no sense. Stop twisting my words. I never said anything about objectifying a woman. Please take a basic reading comprehension course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Or maybe people here made him feel unwelcome and drove him away? I'd high-tail it out of a place if the minute I joined I was made to feel unwelcome. :huh: I'm not sure I believe you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 The issue is not his desire to marry a virgin, but his DEMANDING to marry a virgin, and his lumping all single (never-married) non-virgin women into the same category. Quite frankly, the underlying attitude of the OP seems to be that he just really wants to be the first one "there" - if you know what I mean. And that a woman who's already permitted (or been FORCED) "entrance" is stained, dirty, leftovers, whatever-other-insulting-description-you-can-think-of. People have dealbreakers. For some, it is employment; for others, smoking is a deal-breaker. From what I remember you got married (correct me if I'm wrong); did you have "dealbreakers"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 FYI, someone tipped me off to the OP's posting history on CAF. Unless OP is indeed genuine, I think we may have all been masterfully trolled. ;) source: http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=561434 To be fair, that's from 2 years ago. Although it does seem like he's gone to the other extreme. I'm skimming through the thread - OP had a girlfriend 2 years ago. hmm. But overall there's a common theme in his posts here and there - condescension toward women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 People have dealbreakers. For some, it is employment; for others, smoking is a deal-breaker. From what I remember you got married (correct me if I'm wrong); did you have "dealbreakers"? I'm not married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Do you honestly think that jumping all over Polskieserce and telling people who are making the effort to do things the right way not to worry about sex after he had his fun is repentant? Considering I am a virgin as well, and I "making the effort to do things the right way", I don't think I'm jumping all over anyone. Have you ever had fun while committing a sin? I have. Have you ever taken joy in someone else who has treated you poorly getting "what they deserved", I'm ashamed to admit I have. Have you ever felt good in a moment of greed? I have. My point is, that we've all "had fun" in sin at some point or another, and it's the repentance that counts more than the action. As FCC pointed out, Saint Augustine's book Confessions is all about how he reveled in sin and then had a conversion experience and repented. Would you make these sorts of comments if a person posting was Saint Augustine? If not, then why? We are all striving for sainthood here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Poor St Mary of Egypt is pouting at this thread. Granted, she didn't get married, but still.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tufsoles Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I am very proud to be a virgin and I would love to marry a virgin guy. I know it is an Ideal but .... Like others said he has to be a free and capable, virgin or not. I got love the guy for who he is. Shouldn't we really be talking about Chastity, anyways? However, How did this thread get to 15 pages? Seriously, I thought this thing would die after 2 or 3 because of the op.... and thier "sly" ways. I think every should know by know that this person came in to cause chaos and turn us agianst eachother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 No, I don't consider a person repentant if he gives grief to others for wanting to partake legally that which he himself has partaken of illegally. At least that's how his post came off as. If wants to come back and apologize and clarify, I'll withdraw my objection, but until then the ball is in his court. I am definetly glad you don't get to decide who gets into heaven. Your standards are higher then God's. If it was you deciding you probably would never let anyone into heaven except yourself who apparently is without sin. You are a very prideful young man who already considers himself the last vestigae of true Christianity and we are all just heathens. Like comparing all of us to the Aryn heresy. Last I checked, its not the prideful that will inherate the earth but the humble. Although you will ignore everyone because you are convinced you are a true believe and better than all other sinners. Hmmm, Jesus seems to have dealt with people such as this. Might want to read the gospels to see what he says about prideful people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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