Socrates Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 You are loved. No judgment. No judgement on whom? The unborn babies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I think focusing on "it's a life" is outdated. I think most people now, even the pro-choice people, acknowledge that a human life is ending. I've seen more and more arguments from the pro-choice side that it is about a mother's right to use her body as she wishes--and if the baby's life is infringing on the mother's right to not be pregnant, then it is acceptable to end that baby's life. In other words, they say that a mother does not have an obligation to keep another human being alive using her own body. If true, this is extremely sad commentary on the state of our society that people have to give reasons that an innocent human life should not be killed. I had always felt that pro-life messages should positively emphasize the humanity of the unborn child and its right to life - but so long as people believe that it is okay to kill an innocent child (for any reason), this is indeed a lost cause. That is exactly the culture of death we need to overcome for the pro-life cause to succeed. If we need to resort to self-centered utilitarian arguments for why a baby should not be killed (as opposed to the simple fact that killing an innocent human being is wrong), we've already lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 "Free cat to good home" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ContemporaryCaflicCrusader Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Steve Jobs was adopted. That won worked with my youth ministry. I forgot the name of the plastic tube thingy they kill with, but throw up some stats on the harm to Children and mothers they do with it and say under it in big letters: ULTIMATE WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 No judgement on whom? The unborn babies? I think she means those who would procure an abortion. And, i think it is rather genius. Perhaps if the pro life movement spent as much time and energy into real emotional, spiritual, and fiscal help/support as they do making those beautifully graphic mangled baby posters and 'don't kill your kid' slogans; perhaps we could see and really understand that the additional person who is killed (figuratively) in abortion is the mother (and in some instances, the father as well). Perhaps Fran's slogan gets to the heart of the matter; to overcome the fear of being pregnant with love..to sow hope where only hopelessness can be felt. Love is not in pictures of decapitated babies with their arms torn out of their sockets.... Love is an active assertion of the will. it is 'here, let me help you'. "i've been there, try this... it seems hard now, but I will help".. We all seem to want to wear the cool t-shirts and wave the nifty signs (and that is a good thing) and we all like to pray outside an abortion mill (and that too is a great thing)...but if we only say 'Go in peace, be warm and well fed" and do nothing for their needs, what good is it? I think Fran's slogan at least attempts a 'let me help' -type attitude..and that's why i think it's cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I think she means those who would procure an abortion. And, i think it is rather genius. Perhaps if the pro life movement spent as much time and energy into real emotional, spiritual, and fiscal help/support as they do making those beautifully graphic mangled baby posters and 'don't kill your kid' slogans; perhaps we could see and really understand that the additional person who is killed (figuratively) in abortion is the mother (and in some instances, the father as well). Perhaps Fran's slogan gets to the heart of the matter; to overcome the fear of being pregnant with love..to sow hope where only hopelessness can be felt. Love is not in pictures of decapitated babies with their arms torn out of their sockets.... Love is an active assertion of the will. it is 'here, let me help you'. "i've been there, try this... it seems hard now, but I will help".. We all seem to want to wear the cool t-shirts and wave the nifty signs (and that is a good thing) and we all like to pray outside an abortion mill (and that too is a great thing)...but if we only say 'Go in peace, be warm and well fed" and do nothing for their needs, what good is it? I think Fran's slogan at least attempts a 'let me help' -type attitude..and that's why i think it's cool. We need props back, so I can prop this. KThx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 "To face life is the real challenge." "Do onto others as you would onto yourself." "There can be no freedom without life." "Hold love as the highest." "Be honest with yourself for life's sake." "Doctors should uphold the life of ALL patients, no matter how small." Jsut a few off the top of my head - don't know if they've been used before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I once made a sign with a picture of the baby in the womb saying "what about MY choice?" People seemed to definitely respond to it. Definately one of the best in the thread so far!!! CHEERS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish. Mother Theresa!!! A classic... an undying classic for sure!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Its always been a question of love for the child, ultimately. The fact that the argument of a woman not needed to give her body just to keep a child living is a sad state indeed. Frightening, and is actually arguing a circumstance where murder is acceptable. The CCC; <there is no circumstance where it is acceptable that an innocent life be destroyed>. That sounds about right. On s side note: Even in HELLRAISER, the movies, the makers and partakerrs of the cube admit the innocent must be protected! Think about it - even PinHead, one the worse vilains of all-time under Hollywood standards, has better morals than pro-choicers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) I think she means those who would procure an abortion. And, i think it is rather genius. Perhaps if the pro life movement spent as much time and energy into real emotional, spiritual, and fiscal help/support as they do making those beautifully graphic mangled baby posters and 'don't kill your kid' slogans; perhaps we could see and really understand that the additional person who is killed (figuratively) in abortion is the mother (and in some instances, the father as well). Perhaps Fran's slogan gets to the heart of the matter; to overcome the fear of being pregnant with love..to sow hope where only hopelessness can be felt. Love is not in pictures of decapitated babies with their arms torn out of their sockets.... Love is an active assertion of the will. it is 'here, let me help you'. "i've been there, try this... it seems hard now, but I will help".. We all seem to want to wear the cool t-shirts and wave the nifty signs (and that is a good thing) and we all like to pray outside an abortion mill (and that too is a great thing)...but if we only say 'Go in peace, be warm and well fed" and do nothing for their needs, what good is it? I think Fran's slogan at least attempts a 'let me help' -type attitude..and that's why i think it's cool. Yeah perhaps more posters with mums with there child or children. And fathers with there child or children. And mothers and fathers with there child or children. :) And i agree also that we need a whole pro life counselling movement for women thinking about abortion, which also needs to be linked to employment agencies and food,clothing and housing charities. Edited July 9, 2013 by Tab'le Du'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) There can be a whole series of different scenarios with family pictures. And even Jesus with the children, saying to the crowd (and i know he said it to saint peter but it may avail here.) " Do you love me? Feed my lambs." Because we need to fire each other up also, that one is like a double edge, fires the Christians up for Jesus as well as speaking to the pro choice about charity. Edited July 9, 2013 by Tab'le Du'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab'le De'Bah-Rye Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) " What goes around comes around,eventually." " It's never to late to repent." " God will judge each person on the merits of his or her life." We must not be afraid to use a christian swag on some of the banners, nore should we be afraid to use pictures of the infant Jesus with the Holy Mother, or other icons on some of the banners. Edited July 9, 2013 by Tab'le Du'Bah-Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie12 Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) "SAVE THE HUMANS!" "Consider the implications of this fact: When the word became flesh God was an embryo." "If you were born after 1973, you are a survivor." Edited July 9, 2013 by Annie12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I think she means those who would procure an abortion. And, i think it is rather genius. Perhaps if the pro life movement spent as much time and energy into real emotional, spiritual, and fiscal help/support as they do making those beautifully graphic mangled baby posters and 'don't kill your kid' slogans; perhaps we could see and really understand that the additional person who is killed (figuratively) in abortion is the mother (and in some instances, the father as well). Perhaps Fran's slogan gets to the heart of the matter; to overcome the fear of being pregnant with love..to sow hope where only hopelessness can be felt. Love is not in pictures of decapitated babies with their arms torn out of their sockets.... Love is an active assertion of the will. it is 'here, let me help you'. "i've been there, try this... it seems hard now, but I will help".. We all seem to want to wear the cool t-shirts and wave the nifty signs (and that is a good thing) and we all like to pray outside an abortion mill (and that too is a great thing)...but if we only say 'Go in peace, be warm and well fed" and do nothing for their needs, what good is it? I think Fran's slogan at least attempts a 'let me help' -type attitude..and that's why i think it's cool.Yup. That. Thanks, MIKo. :like: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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