A Question Concerning Harry Potter

[Brother Vinny]

You'll need to take it up with Aquinas.  I'm not near the theologian he was.  And is.

 

Aquinas was, sainted though he is, just a man.

 

You de facto benefit from others' curiosity every time you use a computer, a telephone, a car, or even electric light.  All of these are the fruits of people who said, "What if. . .?"  Since even the Holy See benefits from these fruits, I daresay either curiosity isn't the vice Aquinas made it out to be, or you are perhaps misinterpreting Aquinas.

[Dr. Bombay]

I like this, reminds me when of what a christian rapper i listened to said(sorry can't remember which rapper.), " if the whole community eats poisonous cake, are you going to eat it because it tastes great." 

 

Thanks for this post Dr.Bombay

 

God bless.

Jesus is Lord.

 

Yes, it's like almost the entire culture is mesmerized and cannot see the simple truth even though it's sitting right in front of them.  Diabolical disorientation indeed.

[Dr. Bombay]

Aquinas was, sainted though he is, just a man.

 

You de facto benefit from others' curiosity every time you use a computer, a telephone, a car, or even electric light.  All of these are the fruits of people who said, "What if. . .?"  Since even the Holy See benefits from these fruits, I daresay either curiosity isn't the vice Aquinas made it out to be, or you are perhaps misinterpreting Aquinas.

 

Judge for yourself.

 

http://www.newadvent.org/summa/3167.htm

 

 

I mean, Aquinas isn't that dense.  Even the Latin is pretty basic.  That's why he's so great.  You don't need an STD to understand him.

[Brother Vinny]

Judge for yourself.

 

http://www.newadvent.org/summa/3167.htm

 

 

I mean, Aquinas isn't that dense.  Even the Latin is pretty basic.  That's why he's so great.  You don't need an STD to understand him.

 

Then it's possible he was simply wrong.

 

Without curiosity there's no invention or innovation.  I don't see churches or individuals rushing to get rid of pipe organs, printed hymnals and missals, electric lights, speaker systems, etc., even though they're all by-products of what Aquinas called a vice.

 

And if you continue to reply to me using your computer, I'm going to assume that you're de facto in agreement with me that curiosity has its valid uses.

[Dr. Bombay]

Then it's possible he was simply wrong.

 

Without curiosity there's no invention or innovation.  I don't see churches or individuals rushing to get rid of pipe organs, printed hymnals and missals, electric lights, speaker systems, etc., even though they're all by-products of what Aquinas called a vice.

 

And if you continue to reply to me using your computer, I'm going to assume that you're de facto in agreement with me that curiosity has its valid uses.

 

Aquinas distinguishes between studiousness and its opposite vice curiosity. And it's really not a subtle distinction either.

[Brother Vinny]

Aquinas distinguishes between studiousness and its opposite vice curiosity. And it's really not a subtle distinction either.

 

Again, Aquinas could be wrong.  I find it interesting you're not willing to entertain that possibility.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

I think maybe, curiosity is sinful in the manner of not being content with what God allows for you, which can lead to envy,jealousy and crime, even murder.

 

Also future priest, i enjoyed listening to your Dominican friar, but don't agree with his tearing apart of a direct statement in the catholic chatechsim that needs no interpretation. 

[PhuturePriest]

Judge for yourself.

 

http://www.newadvent.org/summa/3167.htm

 

 

I mean, Aquinas isn't that dense.  Even the Latin is pretty basic.  That's why he's so great.  You don't need an STD to understand him.

 

I was unaware sexually transmitted diseases gave you a profound insight on theology. Is it a specific type of disease, or just any kind of STD?

[Oremoose]

In the chronicles of narnia the magic sort are on the opposing side to aslan and his followers, as far as i'm aware, i can't remember exactly i watched it a long time ago and don't watch movies or t.v. anymore. Well i rarely watch, it is difficult for me to not watch t.v. at present i'm living in a house with two t.v's that are consistantly on at night time, it is a great temptation for me, and usually when i succumb to the temptations and do watch something usualy i switch it off after 10 or so minutes. Most of it is junk food for your minds and hearts, it's bad for our spiritual health. You wouldn't go and do a quijah party, so why reason that watching such things in the guise of fantasy are any different.

 

It matters not what was in the movies. The movies pale in comparison to the books... I suggest you read them they are chocked full allegory and symbolism. all around good read.

 

and not to be rude but this tangent from the wizardry of reading Harry potter to why TV is evil is a stretch and far fetched in my opinion. I see/have excess to more immoral/mind numbing media here on the internet then on my telly. Yet here we are on the webz. Why?... because there is good here as there is on TV and in movies and in books.

 

The reason Tv was invented was to communicate with others, as was the internet. Movies are just a new way to tell stories; to wisk us away from this world to make us forget our troubles to let us go on adventures, and have new experiences, ideas and emotions.

 

So yes there are crap media out there as there is pulp-fiction novels  and poorly written romances, Yet no one bundles all the books together and say they all are crap.

[Chestertonian]

The USCCB had this to say about the withcraft in Harry Potter: It is to be stressed, as with its predecessor, the film is only a fantasy -- not a course in witchcraft -- so it is not attempting to undermine Catholic beliefs. Harry is out to thwart evil and protect his fellow students even at the risk of his own safety.

 

http://old.usccb.org/movies/h/harrypotterandthechamberofsecrets.shtml

[PhuturePriest]

I think maybe, curiosity is sinful in the manner of not being content with what God allows for you, which can lead to envy,jealousy and crime, even murder.

 

Also future priest, i enjoyed listening to your Dominican friar, but don't agree with his tearing apart of a direct statement in the catholic chatechsim that needs no interpretation. 

 

Indeed, it needs no interpretation at all. It is, in fact, quite clear. However, he gave logical reasons on why it doesn't apply to Harry Potter. I'm done with this absolutely ridiculous argument. Don't read Harry Potter if you are uncomfortable with it. But don't go around saying it's sinful to read it as if you are the Church.

Edited July 6, 2013 by FuturePriest387

[Dr. Bombay]

Again, Aquinas could be wrong.  I find it interesting you're not willing to entertain that possibility.

 

 

One of the pillars of western theology for 700 years, recommended by countless Popes, a blessing and curse to seminarians over the centuries.  Sure, he could be wrong.  But I'll take his opinion over the modern mind on most things.
 

[PhuturePriest]

I see your Dominican and raise you a Marian:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDQGnB0xm_g

 

 

Oh, and....
 

 

That's from Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger.  You might know him better as the Vicar of Christ, Pope Benedict XVI.  

 

Oh, Cardinal? You mean, not the Pope? Meaning it wasn't an infallible statement (And even if he was the Pope it wouldn't have been an infallible statement)? I've heard Cardinals say all sorts of heretical things. Should I listen to them simply because they are Cardinals? This seems to be what you are implying here.

[Dr. Bombay]

I was unaware sexually transmitted diseases gave you a profound insight on theology. Is it a specific type of disease, or just any kind of STD?

 

I'm going to assume this is an attempt at humor.

[Brother Vinny]

One of the pillars of western theology for 700 years, recommended by countless Popes, a blessing and curse to seminarians over the centuries.  Sure, he could be wrong.  But I'll take his opinion over the modern mind on most things.
 

 

Again, I say, if your cursing of curiosity is wholesale, you need to forsake its evil fruits.  Back away from the computer, eschew electricity, etc.  I'd suggest an Amish community, but that would entail leaving the Church, and I wouldn't do that even in jest.