cappie Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I think the mallet on the head smiley means "this guy (shoborn sp?) is a doofus). eta: actually I changed my mind. I think Cappie might be ripping the cardinal's words out of context to make a point. "long-term committed same sex relationships" do not necessarily entail a sexual component, and perhaps Father laments the oversexualization of human relationships and is emphasizing the need for deep and meaningful (and holy!) human relationships between people of the same gender. :like2: Correct. I'm sorry if I have been misunderstood. I still act as an Australian and don't appreciate the American idiom. :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 :like2: Correct. I'm sorry if I have been misunderstood. I still act as an Australian and don't appreciate the American idiom. :unsure: I understood what you meant. :like: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristinaTherese Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 My two cents: 1) Jokes on the Internet can be much harder to understand than IRL, because you have neither tone of voice or facial expressions to help. So it's understandable that this all happened, and I don't think it's really holier-than-thou, it's just stemming from not understanding the joke and/or not thinking it's funny anyway. 2) People need to be understood in their own personal context. dUSt, franciscanheart, TJTM, TJMH, and everyone else on this site have their own personal backgrounds that color their responses. For franciscanheart, for instance, this is a sensitive issue in the first place and its understandable that she is not always particularly patient about this. Because we don't all know each other outside of here, it's really easy to take things badly and rub against each other and create drama unnecessarily. Ergo: Just chill and try to understand compassionately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 :like2: Correct. I'm sorry if I have been misunderstood. I still act as an Australian and don't appreciate the American idiom. :unsure: Thanks for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
add Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) Gay marriage cannot negatively affect the sanctity of marriage because it has already been destroyed. I’m sorry but marriage today, in our time is no longer sacred. However, holy matrimony is Sacred! I. E.: Did you realize that, the “Americans for Divorce Reform†estimates that probably, 40 or possibly even 50 percent of marriages will end in divorce if current trends continue. That in 1850, when black men, women and children in several of the states could be ripped from their loved ones and sold as property, a higher percentage of their children were being born and raised in marriage-based, two parent families than there are a century and half later, in 2012. That the birth rate in the U.S. hit an all-time low last year. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, of those births, 40.7 percent were born to mothers out of wedlock. That the out-of-wedlock birth rate for America’s young women is 53 percent and increasing. Isn’t it funny or ironic that men and woman are choosing to start a family without getting hitched but samesex couples are clamoring to tie the knot??? Lastly, There can be little doubt that Abortions will be soon provided free under the US universal healthcare plan and that catholic hospitals and universities will be forced to participate…(Financially) put a fork in it, it's done Edited June 28, 2013 by add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Well, this certainly isn't going to help our ratings with Catholicculture.org (or whatever that website is that rates Catholic websites).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 And clearly they're the ones we're worried about pleasing... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappie Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 And clearly they're the ones we're worried about pleasing... :rolleyes: (just for you francisheart :secret: ) I look at each of my gay friends, who are now just friends, and I am thankful that after all they’ve had to put up with from Christians these days, they even let me love them at all. I will not change my views, and my friend will likely not change his, but we can continue to listen, learn and appreciate “the blessing of growth" that happens when we know each other better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 (just for you francisheart :secret: ) I look at each of my gay friends, who are now just friends, and I am thankful that after all they’ve had to put up with from Christians these days, they even let me love them at all. I will not change my views, and my friend will likely not change his, but we can continue to listen, learn and appreciate “the blessing of growth" that happens when we know each other better.Yes. Absolutely.There is a relationship with one woman in particular which led to understand that statement on a very deep level, though I could not have articulated it well at the time. She and I could not be more polar opposite (in every way imagineable) but we communicate and love as if we were the same person. I am so grateful for her willingness to, as you say, let me love her and I, in turn, am grateful for her love. She has helped me so much to grow as a person; she has shown me the face of God in her existence.As an aside I'd like to throw out there again that I'm so glad you're a part of this community. :heart: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I think that this is the thread in which I intended to post this while I was mistakenly banned by a person who has since been turned into a newt by dust. It might not be the thread. Anyway, there was a lot of searching involved in this. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X69EVJCOKWM[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Better than being turned to dust by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarysLittleFlower Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Well in my opinion if people are really born gay then God can't be that upset when they love the same sex and want to get married...Let it be known I don't support gay marriage and I always held the belief that people weren't born gay and it was a choice...But if people are really born to be attracted to the same sex without no fault of their own I don't see how God could be furious about it ? At the same timei am so attracted to beautiful women I don't see how any guy could think guys are attractive and not girls....I don't get it ? Not everyone would agree that people are born gay.. but there's another point here. We all have desires for things that would break the Commandments. It doesn't mean it's okay to do those things just because we want to. Just as it's not okay for someone to have premarital sex, or adultery, or steal something, even though they want to, - it's also not okay for someone to act on their homosexual desires. Just because a desire is there, doesn't mean we need to act on it. We're not animals, we don't operate by instinct, we make choices and our conscience needs to be properly formed according to God's law in Church teaching :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarysLittleFlower Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 hmm... we're all getting kind of upset on this thread :) if someone doesn't find the joke funny, I don't think it's because they don't have a sense of humour or are trying to be "Holier than thou". If someone finds it funny, again we can't assume that they don't treat the matter seriously as well. Personally I didn't really find it funny. But I can't comment on dUSt's motives in making the joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 Jack White is Catholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 My impressionable mind and been adversely affected. Now I'm going to experiment with heroin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQhKTSIqkEg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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