My Response To The Recent Gay Marriage Decision In The Supreme Court

[KnightofChrist]

I am sure you would not have liked the many jokes me and my family told in the aftermath of my uncle committing suicide either, which was one of the darkest days for my family. Again, I respect your view, but people are strange creatures. You can not evangelize the world with a single type of behavior.

 

I am not sure how you know that with any certainty, it may be true it may not, I'm not even sure what type of jokes you mean. But I also do not know how else to really respond to such a personal tragedy. Other than I have also suffered from such depressing temptations, and I have also lost family and friends to it and we have joked about the fun times we had with those individuals, but admittedly not how they met their end.

 

And it is true the body of Christ has many different parts and roles for each person, as Paul teaches we cannot all be the feet or hands or heart. So there is clearly different ways to evangelize different peoples.

 

That said I will pray for the repose of your beloved uncle's soul at my next holy hour.

 

God Bless.

[Seven77]

I was totally devastated and felt like crying yesterday when i heard the news about DOMA.  An impending sense of doom almost paralyzed me... this decision goes a long way to normalize homosexuality in the eyes of society. How can we effectively reach hearts and minds without being seen as bigots? What now? And then, looking for consolation,  I came to phatmass---and then i saw dUSt's ridiculous picture... how can you not laugh? My spirits were uplifted and I felt hopeful again. 

 

it seems to me that the only way we can win hearts and minds is by the "apostolate of friendship" which involves getting people at ease and making Christ lovable... of course we should take life seriously-- but always with a smile on our faces, because, after all, we are children of God!

[Lil Red]

I was totally devastated and felt like crying yesterday when i heard the news about DOMA.  An impending sense of doom almost paralyzed me... this decision goes a long way to normalize homosexuality in the eyes of society. How can we effectively reach hearts and minds without being seen as bigots? What now? And then, looking for consolation,  I came to phatmass---and then i saw dUSt's ridiculous picture... how can you not laugh? My spirits were uplifted and I felt hopeful again. 

 

it seems to me that the only way we can win hearts and minds is by the "apostolate of friendship" which involves getting people at ease and making Christ lovable... of course we should take life seriously-- but always with a smile on our faces, because, after all, we are children of God!

 

have i told you lately how much i like you? great post  :cheers:

[IcePrincessKRS]

I was totally devastated and felt like crying yesterday when i heard the news about DOMA.  An impending sense of doom almost paralyzed me... this decision goes a long way to normalize homosexuality in the eyes of society. How can we effectively reach hearts and minds without being seen as bigots? What now? And then, looking for consolation,  I came to phatmass---and then i saw dUSt's ridiculous picture... how can you not laugh? My spirits were uplifted and I felt hopeful again. 

 

it seems to me that the only way we can win hearts and minds is by the "apostolate of friendship" which involves getting people at ease and making Christ lovable... of course we should take life seriously-- but always with a smile on our faces, because, after all, we are children of God!

 

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have i told you lately how much i like you? great post  :cheers:

 

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[Vincent Vega]

Imagine if there was an Catholic forum 50 years ago, how would this topic been addressed then.  

 

I miss the good old days, too.

[Seven77]

have i told you lately how much i like you? great post  :cheers:

 

 

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Thanks fam :) :)

[franciscanheart]

I have no idea why all this sexual talk keeps coming up in my spooning thread.

May have something to do with you supporting the bologna over Yoplait. You just reinforced their gutter brains. :| Not that I'm judging...
 

I do not think the homosexual lifestyle is a joke. It is a serious sin, and we should be doing what we can to discourage it and convert sinners. 
 
That is not the issue here. The issue is "how"? Let me know your strategy for fighting this sin. Condemnation? Complete rejection of anything "gay"? Why is your method for battling this sin better than mine? Why do you consider my method of using humor the wrong method?
 
I have never converted an enemy, but I have converted many friends.
 
Who is our enemy you speak of? The devil? I don't think he's laughing at my picture. I think he see's a man who welcomes all people, dedicates uncountable hours to an unpaid ministry, and willing to use his God given talents and dysfunctional personality to convert the world in the best way he knows how--and I think the devil is very afraid. As he should be.
 
I respect your opinion, and admire your faith, but please try not to condemn mine.

Mad props for this post.

It's exactly the point I was trying to make in regards to Senator Wendy Davis. It's exactly why I was so moved by Senator Lucio's presence on the floor that day.
 

We are to be the light of the world, to reflect the light of Christ in a world of darkness. We must not forget that we are at war and whom we are at war with. We must take up arms as Church Militants against the attacks of the devil rather take them lightly, and those arms are our strong Catholic voices, our Rosaries, Divine Mercy Chaplets, and other such forms of prayer. Because one day we will stand before the King of the Universe and He will want to know how we responded to the attacks of Satan, did we take them seriously, or did we make light of them, did we recognize the grave issues at hand or did we ignore them and make merry.
 
The Phatmass Community, the phamily, it’s phounder, its mod(s), and all its members are a good and honorable group. We are blessed to have this oasis in a wasteland of the Internet. It has helped bring souls to Christ, helps souls give and sacrifice their lives to religious vocations, helped bring souls together in marriage, and has helped make good friendships that likewise would have never existed. I thank God for Phatmass, and I love that it has given me the chance to pray for everyone who belongs to it. But I fear that over the years we have perhaps lost some of our objectivity, our seriousness. I fear we have adopted the motto “Why so serious?” and forgotten on some level that we are at war against principalities and powers of wickedness and darkness who seek the ruin of souls. We mock, bully, troll, and dismiss those that take serious issues seriously far too much.
 
Humor or fun and games certainly have their place in life, but it’s ok to take life seriously. It may well be when the Blessed Lord returns that the world will not end with a bang but a whimper. The world may well go merrily, happily and humorously along up and until the very end. As Christ states in Luke 17
 
“As it came to pass in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat and drink, they married wives, and were given in marriage, and until the day that Noah entered into the ark: and the flood came and destroyed them all. Likewise as it came to pass, in the days of Lot: they did eat and drink, they bought and sold, they planted and built. And in the day that Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man shall be revealed.”
 
Yesterday was a day we should have heard from our well-grounded, moral, Catholic voices. Rather than having the Lame board invade Open Mic. What if the next time this nation or this world blesses some grave sin God hates is the last straw? What if the last thing we are found doing is making light or joking of that blessing of sin that God hates?

Those of us who appear lighthearted or less serious are not necessarily any more lighthearted or less serious than you are. In our life with the public (especially when we know we may be watched) we may express ourselves with compassion and humor and love. In our quiet time alone, we may weep for the state of the nation and pray even more fervently than you could imagine. Do not judge a book by its cover but rather, listen to the words and understand the intent.

Frankly, some here take themselves TOO seriously. It is clear not many here understand true compassion, humility and/or pastoral action. Some here speak in ways which lack charity, compassion, true love, empathy, understanding, and patience, among other things. Some take things a bit too far in intellectual understanding and fail to meet the sinner where they are. If we cannot be on equal levels, we will not convert hearts. Your approach may work for some, but it has proven time and time again not to work for the majority. In fact, this approach -- taken by you and many others here -- often serves to harden the hearts of those who would otherwise agree with you.

Holier than thou is not Christ-like.

Humor serves to unite people, to find common ground, to soften hearts. Take yourself as seriously as you'd like, but please do not equate a sense of humor with a lack of reverence toward God and His Law.

[franciscanheart]

 
I miss the good old days, too.

:lol: Right?

[dUSt]

May have something to do with you supporting the bologna over Yoplait. You just reinforced their gutter brains. :| Not that I'm judging...

 

The yogurt issue was completely different. That was concerning something that happened outside of phatmass. It was an inside joke, and it was clique-ey. There was no concrete way of knowing if it was in good taste or not. Some people were in on it and some people were not... Now, my picture is clearly not in good taste, but at least it is out in the open where my intentions are not a mystery.

[franciscanheart]

The a prepared food made from milk curdled by the action of cultures issue was completely different. That was concerning something that happened outside of phatmass. It was an inside joke, and it was clique-ey. There was no concrete way of knowing if it was in good taste or not. Some people were in on it and some people were not... Now, my picture is clearly not in good taste, but at least it is out in the open where my intentions are not a mystery.

My point is: your members have gutter brains.

:| I should have been more clear. Apologies.

[Guest]

[mod]Mature subject matter. -dUSt[/mod]

[dUSt]

My point is: your members have gutter brains.

:| I should have been more clear. Apologies.

Apology accepted. Now make me a sandwich.

 

 

 

 

 

No seriously. Make me a sandwich and bring it to the DFW airport. I forgot my lunch.

[Lil Red]

Apology accepted. Now make me a sandwich.

 

 

 

 

 

No seriously. Make me a sandwich and bring it to the DFW airport. I forgot my lunch.

 

don't fall for that trick, franny!! 

[Clare Brigid]

So I'm trying to figure this out.

 

The original post shows two men spooning on a couch.  I take it that one of these men is the forum owner and that he posted this picture.  He said that this is his response to the decision of the U.S. Supreme Court yesterday in U.S. v. Windsor (the DOMA decision on same sex marriage).

 

As best I can tell, he is saying, in effect, "Look how ridiculous same sex affection is."  Well, that's begging the question, isn't it?  Many of us find it quite normal.  It does not appear patently absurd and laughable to us.  Moreover, for those of us with same sex attraction who are trying to obey the teaching of the Church on that issue, the picture might constitute temptation or scandal.

 

I can't say I'm impressed.

Edited June 27, 2013 by Clare Brigid

[franciscanheart]

I think it says, "Hey, look: I don't take myself too seriously and neither should you." But then, I have a sense of humor.