Not The Mentality Of A Prince

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

I wonder how many degrees Pope Francis1 has, possibly more than any of you.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

Prime example. In my diocease there is a priest from a south east asian country his english isn't great, it isn't horrible but it isn't great either. When he says his homily you have to be mindful and focus on his voice, when i do this i understand most of what he says. He actually is a very holy priest, with wonderful homilies, if you take the time to listen more care fully.

 

Long live Pope Francis1 

 

Onward christian souls.

Jesus is Lord.

 

P.s. Of course a straight C or D student doesn't mean your free from sin, and nore does straight A or B.

Edited July 7, 2013 by Tab'le Du'Bah-Rye

[Luigi]

My spiritual director always has fancy Lincolns with video cameras that go out the back so you can look at the screen instead of having to look behind you. I'd never seen cars so fancy before in my life before I met him. They aren't brand new, they're usually from the '80s or '90s. But they are really fancy cars that you wouldn't expect a clergymen to use.

 

One of my former pastors always drove a Lincoln Continental, but he didn't buy it. It was a gift from a prishioner who bought a new car every year (he owned his own company - it was part his image of success) and then gave last year's car to a priest and used it as a tax write-off.

 

The car was still being put to good use, it helped him in his ministry, and he didn't pay a dime for it. But it was often perceived as pretentious or indulgent.

 

I guess the moral of the story is to not make a judgment until you know the full situation.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

Perhaps there's a shortage of priests because many think there that little old lady that puts in one coin, i hear plenty of clinking in the church plates and not much else. Without the available finances how can we support more priests and other religious? I don't know, i understand that giving something small or large isn't the major point, but perhaps what pope Francis has said about smartphones is also aimed at the laity. Why not by a $50 mobile at safeways instead of a $750 smartphone and give the difference to the church plates or some kind of charity, even a homeless man. That would be random giving a homeless person $700 he or she would totally freak, give him or her a pocket bible too. But than of course we do need some for ourselves. I think Tobit says it wonderfully, "if you have a lot give a lot, if you have a little don't be ashamed of that little you can give." 

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

One of my former pastors always drove a Lincoln Continental, but he didn't buy it. It was a gift from a prishioner who bought a new car every year (he owned his own company - it was part his image of success) and then gave last year's car to a priest and used it as a tax write-off.

 

The car was still being put to good use, it helped him in his ministry, and he didn't pay a dime for it. But it was often perceived as pretentious or indulgent.

 

I guess the moral of the story is to not make a judgment until you know the full situation.

 

 

I hear what your saying, a donation is a donation, but i don't think this is what the Pope is getting at. He is having a go at materialism, buying more than what we actually need. I have heard the present age in the west being compared to the roman empire of the past in it's fascination with material possessions, supposedly the roman empire was really bad at this.

Edited July 7, 2013 by Tab'le Du'Bah-Rye

[Dr. Bombay]

I know a priest that drives a Volkswagen.  If you can imagine such a thing.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

i can't edit again for some reason. But i wanted to add it's probably not just the West, this disease of greed is becoming rampart.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

I know a priest that drives a Volkswagen.  If you can imagine such a thing.

 

 

Nothing wrong with a V Dub. :) , is it an old school bug. I assume those things go and go, like late 70s toyota corollas, they go and go also, and are cheap on fuel.

Edited July 7, 2013 by Tab'le Du'Bah-Rye

[Dr. Bombay]

Nothing wrong with a V Dub. :) , is it an old school bug. I assume those things go and go, like late 70s toyota corollas, they go and go also, and are cheap on fuel.

 

No, it's the fancy new thing, whatever the rich elitists drive that makes them think they're doing something good for the environment. Don't remember what it's called.

 

Not that the priest is a rich elitist.  He just likes driving a stick.  :)

[Lilllabettt]

the newer volkswagen bugs have a flower vase built in. fancy dancy.

[Gabriela]

Should a priest not drive a very fancy vehicle that was donated to him if it might give scandal?

 

What do you all think?

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

Should a priest not drive a very fancy vehicle that was donated to him if it might give scandal?

 

What do you all think?

 

 

Perhaps he should sell it and buy a cheaper car and give the remainder to the poor, or a years worth of free talks from visiting priests or other religious for his congregation. But than perhaps the rich person that has donated it will feel offended and remove any other financial support for the parish? A bit of a conundrum. But perhaps if the rich person gets offended at such charity, than what of his or her charity. Just a thought, i don't have the answer. :)

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[elizabeth09]

I know a priest that drives a Volkswagen.  If you can imagine such a thing.

 

I know a priest that works on his own car.

 

Should a priest not drive a very fancy vehicle that was donated to him if it might give scandal?

 

What do you all think?

 

If he gets a free car, maybe.

[PhuturePriest]

One of my former pastors always drove a Lincoln Continental, but he didn't buy it. It was a gift from a prishioner who bought a new car every year (he owned his own company - it was part his image of success) and then gave last year's car to a priest and used it as a tax write-off.

 

The car was still being put to good use, it helped him in his ministry, and he didn't pay a dime for it. But it was often perceived as pretentious or indulgent.

 

I guess the moral of the story is to not make a judgment until you know the full situation.

 

Oh, I'm not being critical. He's a very good Priest. I was just trying to say that there are Priests who use fancy cars. From what I understand, he trades them out with his sister.

[CatherineM]

My favorite priest, Fr. Paul, drove an old candy apple red Firebird convertible with white leather seats. It was his favorite hobby and toy. He only drove it in nice weather. He tinkered with it all winter in the garage.