CrossCuT Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 In the past the hostility has gone both ways, just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 There's always money in the banana stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted June 22, 2013 Author Share Posted June 22, 2013 I'm sorry for any hostility on my part. Is that what y'all are looking for? Can we please get back on topic? This wasn't supposed to he a witch hunt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 :huh: :blink: [media]http://youtu.be/3R58HCiky28[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God the Father Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 I'm hostile cuz I'm insecure lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oremoose Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Being articulate can greatly lessen the chances of being misheard. :like: Also, I don't think the hostility is built into this community, but is the result of many recent upsets, and possibly other factors. I agree. Being articulate is hard. I for one struggle to harness the full power of our language. And I have noticed in my times here. That every few months everyone gets wound up and sensitive (having seven sisters makes it easy to be attuned to such things :SOS:) And then foolish things are said. Then everyone is fine for awhile and it then repeats...am I right in that observation? Or just crazy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 I'm sorry for any hostility on my part. Is that what y'all are looking for? Can we please get back on topic? This wasn't supposed to he a witch hunt... I think everyone IS on topic...the topic that things are crazy all up in phatmass. Seems like people are just trying to point out that, while your intentions on here are good, you have also contributed to the atmosphere (we all have) you are now speaking against. Which is fantastic! Also, I think people are getting super fed up with the drama anyway and this thread seems to be reopening that sore. But I am glad it is here for people to speak whats on their mind since you opened the conversation up to begin with. So even if you dont like what youre hearing, be open to the feelings of others as they are struggling as well. Phatmass will never get past this silliness until people start being "real" and willing to be willing to be willing. Its very important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted June 22, 2013 Author Share Posted June 22, 2013 That's not the topic. :lol: I'm dealing with new house things and don't have Internet yet. As such, I'm limited to my phone. That in addition to chores means I don't have much time to resay what I've already said. As soon as I can put kid gloves on and type out a thoughtful, clear response, I will. To those who would rather point fingers at me and tell me what a terrible person I am, thank you for the opportunity to grow in humility, love and forgiveness. It's not helpful, but I won't try to change your mind or stop you. If you want to tell me what you really think, my email is [myusername] @ phatmass.com. I'm going to sound like Nihil, but maybe he's for this part right: if you want to talk something out (or just talk at me) please feel free to message or email. Gods peace. More later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicsAreKewl Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 I thought this thread was gunna be about swimwear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfink Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Thanks Fran. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 The level of irony in this thread is killing me. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 In the past the hostility has gone both ways, just saying. I think everyone IS on topic...the topic that things are crazy all up in phatmass. Seems like people are just trying to point out that, while your intentions on here are good, you have also contributed to the atmosphere (we all have) you are now speaking against. Which is fantastic! Also, I think people are getting super fed up with the drama anyway and this thread seems to be reopening that sore. But I am glad it is here for people to speak whats on their mind since you opened the conversation up to begin with. So even if you dont like what youre hearing, be open to the feelings of others as they are struggling as well. i guess i don't see where franny is saying it was just one way? she has already (several times) said that she is sorry for her actions. i have said the same. i know that franny doesn't have a hidden agenda here. i don't think franny started this thread to have everyone beat up on her - she acknowledged her own faults at the beginning of this thread. so have i (or i've tried). yet, it seems to be turning into a "franny hasn't apologized enough" thread. to the bolded part: i'm only seeing my part, and especially with those that i don't agree with, i have an extremely hard time seeing things from their point of view. but i don't want (and i don't think franny wants) this thread to turn into a one-sided, let's point fingers thread? Phatmass will never get past this silliness until people start being "real" and willing to be willing to be willing. Its very important. can i just ask - because it's hard to tell tone/inflection/what-have-you on the internet, and because of past interactions i've had with you. are you being serious here or making fun? ending here (for now), and to everyone reading: i'm trying harder to just be open to what others are saying, regardless if i've disagreed/not gotten along with them in the past - to see what they're saying essentially as a stranger to these phorums would hear it. i'm trying, instead of getting all "het up" about a phrase, to just simply ask - and please know that i'm not trying to be snotty when i ask. i'm trying to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Though I will never be a Saint... Why do you feel this way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 (edited) If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all (or just post pony pictures). That should be a giant banner pinned to the top of every board of Phatmass. Edited June 22, 2013 by FutureCarmeliteClaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 i guess i don't see where franny is saying it was just one way? she has already (several times) said that she is sorry for her actions. i have said the same. i know that franny doesn't have a hidden agenda here. i don't think franny started this thread to have everyone beat up on her - she acknowledged her own faults at the beginning of this thread. so have i (or i've tried). yet, it seems to be turning into a "franny hasn't apologized enough" thread. I have never asked her for an apology. The only reason I asked if this thread WAS an apology of sorts was because I was having a hard time understanding her underlying message. can i just ask - because it's hard to tell tone/inflection/what-have-you on the internet, and because of past interactions i've had with you. are you being serious here or making fun? ending here (for now), and to everyone reading: i'm trying harder to just be open to what others are saying, regardless if i've disagreed/not gotten along with them in the past - to see what they're saying essentially as a stranger to these phorums would hear it. i'm trying, instead of getting all "het up" about a phrase, to just simply ask - and please know that i'm not trying to be snotty when i ask. i'm trying to understand. I was being serious. In any situation where there is tension, it is difficult to step outside of yourself and look at the conversation from an outsiders view; to look at it from a different perspective. Like you said very well (which is why I used the same language), we ALL need to be willing to be willing. If not, where does that leave us? Its hard. I suck at it, but I will ALWAYS try. Always. When I get fed up and crazy, its usually my last resort...and Im not proud of it, but I struggle like everyone else, but it is NOT an excuse. I have no excuse to be rude and I will not offer any. And while this is my personal prospective, I have noticed a huge difference in how you address me LilRed. We have had our tension in the past, but the fact that youre openly communicating with me right now has probably made my entire day. :bounce: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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