cmotherofpirl Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 I used to teach retarded adults who had spent their lives in institutions. They had to learn to do everything in the outside world, from flushing a toilet to going shopping for the first time in their life. But nobody had to teach them how to love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthien Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Anybody I see with down syndrom is my buddy. There is a kid at Kevins school(my boyfriend) who is mentally slow, but what a dancer he is! Ive been to two dances he's been at, and he can move! Its great watching him "shake his thang" on that dance floor. Hes such a ham, and never ceases to bring a smile and a laugh to my lips. Brave New World indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StMichael Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 These aren't "vanity" abortions, but "superior race" abortions. Superior race, where have we heard that phrase before? Millions of people lost their lives fighting the guy who coined the thinking. His name was Adolf Hitler and it was WW2. Amazing that within 60 years of that we have couples in this world putting together the perfect genetic baby and now the way a baby's mouth is forming could depend on it surviving the mother's whim and the "doctor's" procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 It really does sound like "Brave New World" Awful, just awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 [quote] That book is twisted. [/quote] But it's also prophetic in a lot of ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil bull 04 Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azaelia Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 [quote name='lil bull 04' date='Jun 1 2004, 01:14 PM'] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 She's pro-life, so I'm not sure why she used that...I think perhaps she meant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 [quote name='StMichael' date='Jun 1 2004, 11:03 AM'] These aren't "vanity" abortions, but "superior race" abortions. Superior race, where have we heard that phrase before? Millions of people lost their lives fighting the guy who coined the thinking. His name was Adolf Hitler and it was WW2. Amazing that within 60 years of that we have couples in this world putting together the perfect genetic baby and now the way a baby's mouth is forming could depend on it surviving the mother's whim and the "doctor's" procedure. [/quote] Amen to that, my friend. Amen. How sad that people can't even recognize what they're doing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 I've never heard of Brave New World. What is it about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StMichael Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 [quote name='Lil Red' date='Jun 1 2004, 01:16 PM'] Amen to that, my friend. Amen. How sad that people can't even recognize what they're doing! [/quote] Someone needs to have these people see a sonogram at 8 weeks then 10 weeks and see the baby kicking and moving. We call an ameoba life, yet a mother is being fooled into thinking that her baby is not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 I know, it's totally sick and wrong. And the thing is, the "choices" of a few are determining law for the many. And that's not just for abortion either, but things like gay marriage, religious liberty in schools and workplaces, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 LRD, it's been a while since I read it, but if I remember correctly, Brave New World is about a "perfectly ordered" society in which genetic manipulation to achieve genetic perfection is the norm ... if you've ever seen the movie "Gattaca" with Ethan Hawke, it's a world something like that. I don't remember the plot at all, though. It's been too long ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 k4th0l1x0r Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 [quote name='StMichael' date='Jun 1 2004, 01:22 PM'] We call an ameoba life, yet a mother is being fooled into thinking that her baby is not? [/quote] What's unbelievable is that some people will go to lengths to support animal rights and turn around and support abortion. If you believe baby cows deserve protection, how can you possibly believe that baby humans don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Brave New World was an anti-utopian book of satire written by Aldous Huxley in 1931... Here's an excerpt -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- In the "brave new world" of 632 A. F. (After Ford), universal human happiness has been achieved. (Well, almost.) Control of reproduction, genetic engineering, conditioning--especially via repetitive messages delivered during sleep--and a perfect pleasure drug called "Soma" are the cornerstones of the new society. Reproduction has been removed from the womb and placed on the conveyor belt, where reproductive workers tinker with the embryos to produce various grades of human beings, ranging from the super-intelligent Alpha Pluses down to the dwarfed semi-moron Epsilons. Each class is conditioned to love its type of work and its place in society; for example, Epsilons are supremely happy running elevators. Outside of their work, people spend their lives in constant pleasure. This involves consuming (continually buying new things, whether they need them or not), participating in elaborate sports, and free-floating sex. While uninhibited sex is universal and considered socially constructive, love, marriage, and parenthood are viewed as obscene. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- So in the book, the "less intelligent" weren't killed off like they are now. They were just conditioned to do menial labor. Henry Ford replaces Jesus Christ, ( i.e. "in the year of our Ford") and everything is about efficiency and sex. The basic plot is a "savage" from a reservation (someone like you or me who is a product of the "old way" i.e. natural birth, and values etc.) in New Mexico is forced to either accept this utopia or death. He chooses to die. It's not a very cheerful book... I have a copy of it, and 1984, at home. I find dystopian lore interesting for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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