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GregorMendel Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 The Republican party was the party that supported abolition. Just saying :| Actually, the Republican party of the 1860s believed in what we would consider liberal policies by todays standards: expansion of the federal government, federal enforcement of the 14th ammendment, creation of the justice department, and lets not forget that the first republican administration fought and won a war that some claim to be about states rights, all principles well within the wheelhouse of today's democrat party. From the begining of the Reconstruction era, there were what we would today see as strange coalitions of various political branches, none worth explaing in so much detail besides explaing that the American political landscape was slowly coalescing. Then in 1893 enters William Jennings Bryan, the most important man never to win the presidency, who starts shaving away at the conservative principles of the then "democrats" (still strongly holding the southern majority), instilling his visions for reform and governments responsibility for social justice, so much that when they next had the majority in congress in 1913, they implemented the Federal Income Tax and the Federal Reserve Act. This also reveals how and why the parties would respond to the progressive movemen in the way they do. Both parties campaigned for an augmented federal government, largely to swoon the western states who saw big businesses succeeding and small agracultural companies and family farms failing, largely as a result of the principles campaigned by the then republicans. It is only during the Coolidge administration that the Republican party becomes the advocate for small government and business. While there has been some ping ponging back and forth since WW2, the final step in this switch was the New Deal, which permanently associated the democrats not with the south but the north and west and with Bryan's principles of social reform, the republicans who fought it no longer as the "big business-big government" party but as the "big business-small government" party, and ironically transformed the supporters of Teddy Roosevelt's republican party into supporters of Franklin Delano Roosevelt's democrat party. So I believe that if one is to say that "The republican party freed the slaves", one must clarify and qualify it by specifically saying the pre-Reconstruction republican party freed the slaves, because the principles they supported survive today in the modern democrat party. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Ha! You're taking this thread serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LittleWaySoul Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Actually, the Republican party of the 1860s believed in what we would consider liberal policies by todays standards: expansion of the federal government, federal enforcement of the 14th ammendment, creation of the justice department, and lets not forget that the first republican administration fought and won a war that some claim to be about states rights, all principles well within the wheelhouse of today's democrat party. From the begining of the Reconstruction era, there were what we would today see as strange coalitions of various political branches, none worth explaing in so much detail besides explaing that the American political landscape was slowly coalescing. Then in 1893 enters William Jennings Bryan, the most important man never to win the presidency, who starts shaving away at the conservative principles of the then "democrats" (still strongly holding the southern majority), instilling his visions for reform and governments responsibility for social justice, so much that when they next had the majority in congress in 1913, they implemented the Federal Income Tax and the Federal Reserve Act. This also reveals how and why the parties would respond to the progressive movemen in the way they do. Both parties campaigned for an augmented federal government, largely to swoon the western states who saw big businesses succeeding and small agracultural companies and family farms failing, largely as a result of the principles campaigned by the then republicans. It is only during the Coolidge administration that the Republican party becomes the advocate for small government and business. While there has been some ping ponging back and forth since WW2, the final step in this switch was the New Deal, which permanently associated the democrats not with the south but the north and west and with Bryan's principles of social reform, the republicans who fought it no longer as the "big business-big government" party but as the "big business-small government" party, and ironically transformed the supporters of Teddy Roosevelt's republican party into supporters of Franklin Delano Roosevelt's democrat party. So I believe that if one is to say that "The republican party freed the slaves", one must clarify and qualify it by specifically saying the pre-Reconstruction republican party freed the slaves, because the principles they supported survive today in the modern democrat party. :D I stand corrected :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jesus_lol Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) The really funny thing here is how painfully obvious this statement is in reverse, when applied to common left leaning people. "Voter ID is bad, it makes poor people unable to exercise their right, and puts barriers in the way of your rights!!! but any and all gun legislation we can possibly pass is A-OK, especially ones requiring mandatory licensing, registration, ID, bans, etc" Most people think the voter ID is a no go, every gun owner ive talked to, so this little bit of hypocrisy really lies more heavily on those who support the gun laws. Especially considering, in terms of barriers between rights, there are an arseload more on guns already than there is on voting. Edited June 20, 2013 by Jesus_lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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