Winchester Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 AMERICA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byzantine Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 all languages other than the English language are of the Devil. REDHIBE. NUNC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 REDHIBE. NUNC. Get behind me, Satan! I don't know why you would want Satan behind you, to be honest. Aren't you easier to attack from behind? If he must be around, I'd rather have Satan in front of me so I can counter any attacks of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byzantine Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) Get behind me, Satan! I don't know why you would want Satan behind you, to be honest. Aren't you easier to attack from behind? If he must be around, I'd rather have Satan in front of me so I can counter any attacks of his. Me vocasti Satanas. :( Edited June 9, 2013 by Byzantine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bombay Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Kansas City, Missouri or Kansas City, Kansas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 Kansas City, Missouri or Kansas City, Kansas? The Mass was on the Missouri side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCIA ~ Class of 09 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 We have a Parish in our community that not only doesn't have kneelers, but when they sing they sway a lot and clap. It feels like I am at a Baptist Revival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Where's cmaria when you need her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bombay Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 The Mass was on the Missouri side. I see. You have chosen the better part. :console: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 We have a Parish in our community that not only doesn't have kneelers, but when they sing they sway a lot and clap. It feels like I am at a Baptist Revival. Kneelers - and even pews - are realy quite new innovations in the Catholic Church. The vast majority of European churches, if they were built before about ... I don't know, 1800? 1850? had no pews or kneelers. They have them now, sort of combination pew+kneeler-for-the-folks-in-the-row-behind kind of units, but they're not bolted to the floors or anything. Sometimes the church is only about half-filled with them. Some churches have chairs+kneeler units. And if you think Hispanic people sing and swsay and clap a lot, you should go to an African-American parish. If you dare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 Kneelers - and even pews - are realy quite new innovations in the Catholic Church. The vast majority of European churches, if they were built before about ... I don't know, 1800? 1850? had no pews or kneelers. They have them now, sort of combination pew+kneeler-for-the-folks-in-the-row-behind kind of units, but they're not bolted to the floors or anything. Sometimes the church is only about half-filled with them. Some churches have chairs+kneeler units. And if you think Hispanic people sing and swsay and clap a lot, you should go to an African-American parish. If you dare. I went to one of those once. Crazily enough, the cantor was an English guy, and he sounded like Elton John. It was quite fitting, as he performed much like Elton John. I felt like I was at a free Elton John ripoff concert at Vegas, except instead of Benny and the Jets, we did really weird tunes where the lyrics were literally spelled out like "Mah" instead of "My". I wish I were joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) ... it became terribly apparent that it was a Spanish Mass. ... and everyone raised their right hands in front of them (Think of a Nazi salute-type of motion), and I'm pretty sure they were blessing it with the Priest. ... hoping that he would take note that I was white so he could comment about it. Terribly apparent? Was it really that terrible? Or was it just more like, I don't know, maybe obvious? YOU think "Nazi salute-type motion." That's not what most people think when they raise their hand to participate along with the presider. Like in a baptism, when the person being baptized is being baptized into the community of believers, so that it's like, I don't know, appropriate for the community of believers to participate, and bless (along with the presider) this new member of their community. So how did it feel, having the minority shoe on the other foot? Was that the first time you've ever been white-and-the-minority? I know you're kind of wavering on your priestly discernment, but if you ever follow through on that, you're going to be exposed to a lot of things you haven't seen in Kansas, Toto. Mark this down as the first of many eye-opening liturgies yet to come. To your credit, you're smart, and you'll learn from them. Edited June 9, 2013 by Luigi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) Terribly apparent? Was it really that terrible? Or was it just more like, I don't know, maybe obvious? YOU think "Nazi salute-type motion." That's not what most people think when they raise their hand to participate along with the presider. Like in a baptism, when the person being baptized is being baptized into the community of believers, so that it's like, I don't know, appropriate for the community of believers to participate, and bless (along with the presider) this new member of their community. So how did feel, having the minority shoe on the other foot? Was that the first time you've ever been white-and-the-minority? I know you're kind of wavering on your priestly discernment, but if you ever follow through on that, you're going to be exposed to a lot of things you haven't seen in Kansas, Toto. Mark this down as the first of many eye-opening liturgies yet to come. To your credit, you're smart, and you'll learn from them. I didn't say "terribly" meaning "terrible". It's a phrase. If I was offended being the minority, I would have said "To my horror, I realized I was the one white guy in a room full of Mexicans". However, I have no problem with Mexicans, so that's not what I said. I'm also used to being a minority, as there is a very large population of Mexicans in Dodge City, and I go there quite often. I didn't use that as an insult so much as as a joking way to let people know what it looked like since I couldn't think of any other way to explain it. I realize it wasn't an actual Nazi salute and that's not what they were thinking even if it was. I've been to quite a few crazy Masses in my time, so this isn't the first time I've encountered this. I've even been to a Polka Mass before, which is an experience similar to a clown Mass. I just wanted to post about it for the sake of posting about it. Edited June 9, 2013 by FuturePriest387 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bombay Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 When I see a whole church full of people raising their hands like that, the first thing that comes to mind is Nazi. And I'm not wavering in my priestly discernment, having recently spent 5 years in a diocesan seminary and might just be returning if God so wills. You see, the younger fellows make me look like Hans Kung and I'm hardly a flaming liberal. Or a flamer of any kind. In fact, I'm completely asbestos. I have a suspicion the feel-good, hand-holding American Church is in for a rude awakening when these guys start to get ordained. And the lace. Get ready for more lace in the sanctuary than a Victoria's Secret catalog. The worm has turned, the pendulum has swung and Toto, I don't believe we're in the 70s anymore. The liberals sowed the wind and are about to reap the whirlwind. There's a storm coming, AmChurch. You and your friends better batten down the hatches, because when it hits, you're all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us. And I think I've tortured that metaphor quite enough, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 When I see a whole church full of people raising their hands like that, the first thing that comes to mind is Nazi. And I'm not wavering in my priestly discernment, having recently spent 5 years in a diocesan seminary and might just be returning if God so wills. You see, the younger fellows make me look like Hans Kung and I'm hardly a flaming liberal. Or a flamer of any kind. In fact, I'm completely asbestos. I have a suspicion the feel-good, hand-holding American Church is in for a rude awakening when these guys start to get ordained. And the lace. Get ready for more lace in the sanctuary than a Victoria's Secret catalog. The worm has turned, the pendulum has swung and Toto, I don't believe we're in the 70s anymore. The liberals sowed the wind and are about to reap the whirlwind. There's a storm coming, AmChurch. You and your friends better batten down the hatches, because when it hits, you're all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us. And I think I've tortured that metaphor quite enough, thank you. Sounds like you're looking forward to that. Revenge is sweet, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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