Anastasia13 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) In keeping with my new found Islamic faith, I have decided to preach to you against the dangers of intoxication. "Alcohol leads to many other grave sins. Continual or large scale use of alcohol has a bad effect on most people's sex-life. The high rates of incest (sexual relations with close relations like son with mother, brother with sister etc) and rape in the European countries are due to the large consumption of alcohol in those countries." http://miraculousqur...dom-behind.html Surah 2:219 They ask you about intoxicants and games of chance. Say: In both of them there is a great sin and means of profit for men, and their sin is greater than their profit. And they ask you as to what they should spend. Say: What you can spare. Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications, that you may ponder M Shakir's Quran Translation Repent of your ways, infidels! Liquorish, rootbeer, butter scotch, even these western heathen temptations must be removed to live purely, free of temptation to give in to the devil's juice! We must ban these from every store possible. Who's with me? Edited June 2, 2013 by Light and Truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 is this a joke? and what of this established poster becoming muslim? that'd be more interesting to debate, the issue of islam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Did you really convert (again)? I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 almost no one could be serious, or at least be taken seriously, if they say stuff like... "Repent of your ways, infidels!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Islam ? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Drank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Alcohol is not the mother of all sins. I think pride probably leads to more sins than alcohol. But alcohol can - depending on the person and her/his ability to handle it - lead a person to commit other sins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia13 Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) Did you really convert (again)? I'm confused. Either: 1.) I believe the same as two months ago, rather like an Armenian Catholic* worshipping in a 99% the same Armenian Apostolic church. *Fun facts: There are a total of 7 Armenian Catholic churches in the whole of the US. CCEC 670 would permit an Eastern Catholic to worship at an Orthodox church for a just cause. Communis Notio indicates the same faith exists in both churches. 2.) Yes. You have been blinded by your upbringings and lack of critical thinking skills (lousy American education...). Now in keeping with my love of spoken word poetry, here is an example of some good arguments for Islam. (But let me know if we can ever use cuss words, cause I got Def Poetry fav that is powerful-title is Spoons, but man that girl can talk...) http://youtu.be/YNGqrzkFp_4 Now that is my Youtube You Decide. Don't believe in faith but fail to use reason. There is just one G-d, and He wants us to be over sober minds. Submission, obedience, more than just our feelings or intentions matter, and alcohol interferes with this-it hinders us from doing Allah's will. One does not have to go to the Sunnahs to find wisdom against drinking. Even Proverbs/Mish'ley tells us not to be drunk with wine. Even a little alcohol affects the brain. This must be stopped! Edited June 3, 2013 by Light and Truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia13 Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) is this a joke? and what of this established poster becoming muslim? that'd be more interesting to debate, the issue of islam. Is it? Which do you follow, Dairygirl, the creation or the creator? Edited June 3, 2013 by Light and Truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia13 Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 Alcohol is not the mother of all sins. I think pride probably leads to more sins than alcohol. But alcohol can - depending on the person and her/his ability to handle it - lead a person to commit other sins. Alcohol could accentuate the danger of pride where pride alone might not kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyAnn Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 How did you think this would go down, in a forum with a beer section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 OP won't give up vodka, hence joke. Also I've never sinned when drinking (as far as I can recall). Hence alcohol will make me a saint if I drink enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Yes. Intentionally getting yourself in a state of drunkenness is sinful. That was a long time ago for me. I have received absolution and have freed myself from that desire. But what does that got to do with Islam? Do you know Islam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia13 Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 But what does that got to do with Islam? Do you know Islam? Islam forbids alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) Moderation. Alcohol is inanimate and indifferent; it does not have the ability to be good or evil inherently. Your time is better spent trying convincing people to be good PEOPLE instead of discontinuing their alcohol drinking. Edited June 3, 2013 by CrossCuT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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