Norseman82 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Not surprising. Exxon-Mobil is on the list of companies that I believe Ave Maria funds holds stock in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Taildeer. But it looks like more of the usual "climate change" globaloney. But this begs the question: since apparently I'm a horrible, awful person who doesn't care about my kids because I support some evil, evil oil corporation by filling 'er up at the pump, what, Oh Wise One, is the correct, moral course of action you take when driving your car and the needle on the fuel gauge starts heading to the "Empty" mark? For me to take? I don't drive or use public transportation. But that's because I'm lucky to be in a situation where neither is necessary for me. For a thinking decent human being who isn't in such a position? Probably to fill up their tank. We have an economy structured around fossil fuels. That's not the fault of any one individual. You're doing an awful, terrible thing in expending your energies actively opposing policies that will stop a phenomena that is currently altering the earth in ways that will make the lives of your children more difficult. It's not like you really have any excuse for pushing your awful sophistry. Scientifically literate phatmassers like LD have ravaged your feeble attempts at arguing the issue in substance on multiple occasions. You have no excuse for being as wrong as you are and yet you persist, pushing your bullpoo, doing your own tiny part to make the ecosystem less and less habitable for your children and grand-children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestertonian Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Alas, science has been so politicized that no one knows what to believe anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amppax Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Alas, science has been so politicized that no one knows what to believe anymore. Have you been here any of the times L_D has posted about this issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Alas, science has been so politicized that no one knows what to believe anymore. Nope. Not really. Science works pretty well everywhere. That's why it's the GLOBAL scientific consensus rather than the scientific consensus of the left-wing of the American Democratic party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Have you been here any of the times L_D has posted about this issue? Why? Did L_D completely demolish the intellectual charlatanism of our local sophists or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestertonian Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Have you been here any of the times L_D has posted about this issue? Yeah, pretty funny. Definitely sounds like he knows what he's talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Yeah, pretty funny. Definitely sounds like he knows what he's talking about. He knows what he is talking about on quite a few different subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestertonian Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Nope. Not really. Science works pretty well everywhere. That's why it's the GLOBAL scientific consensus rather than the scientific consensus of the left-wing of the American Democratic party. Science does, yes. Ideology that masks itself in science does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestertonian Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Why? Did L_D completely demolish the intellectual charlatanism of our local sophists or something? So you form your opinions based on scientific consensus, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 So you form your opinions based on scientific consensus, right? No. I'm not a robot. And I'm not pretending that I am some purely rational being. But I try not to promote opinions that are totally contrary to the global scientific consensus regarding an issue that will seriously impact the lives of millions or billions of people. Because that's irresponsible. That's also why, despite being on the far libertarian left, you will never see me advocate the sudden abolition of capitalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Science does, yes. Ideology that masks itself in science does not. Fortunately that has nothing to do with climate change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Thanks JMJTina. I'll make it a point to buy Exxon gas. Pro-Life ExxonMobil supports UNICEF, an organization that pushes for legal abortion to be a right for women all over the world. It also gives matching gifts to both Planned Parenthood and United Way. http://www.2ndvote.com/scores/detail/exxonmobil :bravo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 For me to take? I don't drive or use public transportation. But that's because I'm lucky to be in a situation where neither is necessary for me. For a thinking decent human being who isn't in such a position? Probably to fill up their tank. We have an economy structured around fossil fuels. That's not the fault of any one individual. You're doing an awful, terrible thing in expending your energies actively opposing policies that will stop a phenomena that is currently altering the earth in ways that will make the lives of your children more difficult. It's not like you really have any excuse for pushing your awful sophistry. Scientifically literate phatmassers like LD have ravaged your feeble attempts at arguing the issue in substance on multiple occasions. You have no excuse for being as wrong as you are and yet you persist, pushing your bullpoo, doing your own tiny part to make the ecosystem less and less habitable for your children and grand-children. As you correctly note, most of us are not in a position where not driving is a feasible option. Though I'm not against using public transportation (I myself prefer to use the metro in D.C.) However, even your public transport no doubt runs on fossil fuels, and I'm sure you drive or ride in a car when necessary. Exactly what policies that I oppose would stop global warming? Even scientists convinced of man-made global warming say that nothing short of a total global ban on all "greenhouse gas" emissions would have any real effect at all on the climate. Somehow I doubt even you would welcome the consequences of such drastic action. Currently, we simply don't have a viable large-scale replacement for fossil fuels as a major energy source. I support human freedom and property rights, and oppose government policies that would have negligible effect at best on climate, but very real crippling effects on the economy - which would seriously increase poverty. And I can guarantee that my own personal carbon print is a tiny fraction of Al Gore's But sorry for not sharing your pc opinions. If you're so concerned about the environment, go out and plant a true. Internet beeshing doesn't do poo for the earth (and fossil fuels are being burned to keep you pc juiced.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 http://www.2ndvote.com/scores/detail/exxonmobil :bravo: Well, it's truly heartening to see how the phatmass peanut gallery thinks that Exxon Mobil giving money to Planned Parenthood is so crazy dope, yo! Sadly, it seems that pretty much every major corporation out there funds that vile organization. Are there any major oil companies that don't give to PP or similar organizations? (Serious, earnest question.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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