Carmelite Customs

[truthfinder]

I agree with the others that their website is excellent.  Im not very familiar with those Carmels but do they have the Office in Latin too, or is that just Valparaiso and her offspring? 
 

I'm not sure about that, but Valparaiso has recently gotten permission to do the old Carmelite breviary, so they truly are unique.

[Chiquitunga]

I agree with the others that their website is excellent.  Im not very familiar with those Carmels but do they have the Office in Latin too, or is that just Valparaiso and her offspring? 
 

 

Sorry, I didn't see your post when I was on earlier today. Yes, Buffalo, Brooklyn, Alexandria and now its foundation in Hague, ND all have the Liturgy of the Hours (Liturgia Horarum officially) all in Latin. Also the Wichita Carmel has it completely in Latin as well.

 

The JMJ Carmels have had the Carmelite Rite (O.Carm.) breviary for at least the last 12 years. I'm not sure exactly how long but know they were using it in already in '02. I heard that recently Morristown began using this breviary too. 

Edited October 4, 2014 by Chiquitunga

[graciandelamadrededios]

Carmelite Profession - Prostration

 

Please post your favorite profession photos, in particular, photos that shows the novice - prostrate and covered with petals.

 

Here you go, Chiqui!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Image 6 / 22 Surrounded by her fellow Discalced Carmelite nuns, Mother Maria Isabel de la Trinidad lies prostrate on the floor during the Litany of the Saints.

[truthfinder]

Looks like the nuns showering the petals have flipped the edge of their veils forward.

[graciandelamadrededios]

Looks like the nuns showering the petals have flipped the edge of their veils forward.

 

The large communion veil is now use to replace the grate veil.

 

Most of the Spanish Carmels and Carmels who can trace their roots in Spain normally does this, in particular the 1990 Carmels.

 

An American Prioress of a 1990 Carmel explained to me that they pulled the flap of their communion veil down to the tip of their nose during communion or whenever they face the choir grille or near the grille.

Edited October 5, 2014 by graciandelamadrededios

[graciandelamadrededios]

Hey Gracian! Sorry I didn't take the time to explain it in the email, but the interesting thing about this Carmel that I wanted to share is that they are actually a foundation from Peru to Huelva, Spain. I haven't searched yet to try to find what Carmel in Peru did this, but I thought that was pretty amazing.

 

And yeah, I only just heard of Mother Maria Isabel there, http://madremariaisabel.es/ She was in the Carmel in Elche, Spain. I've seen another site calling her a Servant of God. It's great to have more Carmelite possible saints-to-be in the running, like Mother Maria Josefa as well, http://www.madremariajosefa.es/

 

Also, I recently heard that the miracle for Blessed Mary of Jesus Crucified's canonization has been approved! This was in a newsletter from the OCD postulator general, although I can't find a link for this just now. 

 

Mother Mary Joseph of the Heart of Jesus (Madre Maria Josefa del Corazon de Jesus) was the President of the Association of St. Teresa in Spain during the time of drafting the 1990 Text.  She was one of the three Nuns who were invited and travelled to Rome to present alternative text so that it can be examined and approved by the Holy See.

 

Mother Mary Joseph was one of the Nuns St. Maravillas trusted, along with Mother Dolores of Jesus (who became the Prioress of La Aldehuela Carmel after the death of Mother Maravillas).  She was the Prioress of Cerro de los Angeles Carmel while Mother Maravillas was the Prioress of La Aldehuela Carmel.  Mother Mary Joseph died in October 2, 2004.

Edited October 5, 2014 by graciandelamadrededios

[Charbel]

JMJ

 

I came across this video with the nuns wearing the wooden cross on the outside of the scapular, which was being discussed previously on this thread. I don't understand the language, but someone who does might be able to see if there could be some helpful information about this custom. :like: Around 2:10 they zoom in on the wooden cross.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGCU7KAwU8Q</media>

[Chiquitunga]

Thanks Charbel!! Thanks a wonderful video! and it's very good quality too!

 

At 2:10 there the Novice is talking about her vocation and their life of prayer and community, and I like how she says the life of prayer for her and all of us Carmelites is a real encounter with the person of Jesus Christ (which I think is always good to be clear about from the start, which is totally different from others like Buddhist monks, etc.)

 

I cannot understand everything she says though. But yes, those are wonderful shots of the wooden Crosses! Something else I've noticed with the Italian Carmels is that their habits are really a mix of French and Spanish, and look more Spanish. Most of them trace their roots from St. Teresa's foundation in Malagon, but others from France. I'm not sure about this one. 

 

Thanks again for posting this! 

[vee]

With the celebration of the 500th birthday of st teresa of avila they have many things going on including sending her cane on an aroudn the world tour.  I came across pics of something thats been discussed on here before and thought Id post the pics.

 

From teh carmel in Rio

 

more pics are on the facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.393350494153738.1073741859.148134025342054&type=3

 

 

 

[graciandelamadrededios]

Thanks Charbel!! Thanks a wonderful video! and it's very good quality too!

 

At 2:10 there the Novice is talking about her vocation and their life of prayer and community, and I like how she says the life of prayer for her and all of us Carmelites is a real encounter with the person of Jesus Christ (which I think is always good to be clear about from the start, which is totally different from others like Buddhist monks, etc.)

 

I cannot understand everything she says though. But yes, those are wonderful shots of the wooden Crosses! Something else I've noticed with the Italian Carmels is that their habits are really a mix of French and Spanish, and look more Spanish. Most of them trace their roots from St. Teresa's foundation in Malagon, but others from France. I'm not sure about this one. 

 

Thanks again for posting this! 

 

Hi Chiqui,

 

What do you mean this Carmel has more Spanish style?

 

Please another video of an Italian Carmel with wooden crossed pinned outside their scapular.  This is Legnano Carmel but their veils are shirred.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWd5d4cxo4w

 

 

George

[graciandelamadrededios]

With the celebration of the 500th birthday of st teresa of avila they have many things going on including sending her cane on an aroudn the world tour.  I came across pics of something thats been discussed on here before and thought Id post the pics.

 

From teh carmel in Rio

 

more pics are on the facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.393350494153738.1073741859.148134025342054&type=3

 

 

 

 

Wow.  The Nuns did not remove the spikes!

[Chiquitunga]

With the celebration of the 500th birthday of st teresa of avila they have many things going on including sending her cane on an aroudn the world tour.  I came across pics of something thats been discussed on here before and thought Id post the pics.

 

From teh carmel in Rio

 

more pics are on the facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.393350494153738.1073741859.148134025342054&type=3

 

 

So her staff is in Ecuador now, and tomorrow will be at the Middle of the World monument! :like: (she gets around!) https://www.facebook.com/MuseoCarmenAlto/photos/a.191668267683137.1073741828.191439021039395/327945700722059/?type=1&theater

 

Then from November 28th - Dec 5th it will be in the US, http://caminodeluz.stj500.com/programacion-por-paises/

 

But so far I can only find that it will be at this parish in Alhambra, http://www.sttheresechurchalhambra.org/

 

http://caminodeluz.stj500.com/el-baston-de-la-santa/

Edited November 18, 2014 by Chiquitunga

[Chiquitunga]

a playlist with the places it's been so far, Uploads from VCentenarioSTJ

and they visited Chiqui!!! (her body is under the grille of the nuns' choir)  :nun2:

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvH3S2hY5OM&list=UUXlUoKBZBG-GYbYTbdDNJXg&feature=player_detailpage#t=6

 

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.396181617203959.1073741862.148134025342054&type=3

Edited November 18, 2014 by Chiquitunga

[Chiquitunga]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGCU7KAwU8Q</media>

 

Hi Chiqui,

 

What do you mean this Carmel has more Spanish style?

 

Hi Gracian! Sorry I almost missed seeing this question. I feel like their veils looked more Spanish than French because of the way the dail veil lies across their forehead, though it's not shirred. Most Spanish cloistered nuns seem to have it this way as well, like Dominicans and Conceptionists (although not Carthusians). So I feel it overall looks more Spanish, although other parts look more French.

 

Edited November 18, 2014 by Chiquitunga

[Chiquitunga]

So her staff is in Ecuador now, and tomorrow will be at the Middle of the World monument! :like: (she gets around!) https://www.facebook.com/MuseoCarmenAlto/photos/a.191668267683137.1073741828.191439021039395/327945700722059/?type=1&theater

 

Then from November 28th - Dec 5th it will be in the US, http://caminodeluz.stj500.com/programacion-por-paises/

 

But so far I can only find that it will be at this parish in Alhambra, http://www.sttheresechurchalhambra.org/

 

http://caminodeluz.stj500.com/el-baston-de-la-santa/

 

an English site on it, http://marcmdan.wordpress.com/st-teresa-of-jesus-avila-path-of-light-tour-stj-500-feast-of-the-fifth-centenary-of-the-saint/

 

and the rest of the tour, http://caminodeluz.stj500.com/ruta/

 

November 28th - San Antonio, TX 

 

November 30th through the 1st of December - Alhambra, CA  http://www.sttheresechurchalhambra.org/

 

December 3rd - San Francisco, CA (I wonder if it will go to Cristo Rey Carmel, it would be so wonderful if they also stopped at the new Kensington Carmel!)

 

then it's off to South Korea

Edited November 18, 2014 by Chiquitunga