franciscanheart Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Basically because they're better than everyone else and we all know it. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotpink Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Basically because they're better than everyone else and we all know it. :| Not to get into a hissy fight, but I really HATE that phraze, especially when used by children, weither it be private, catholic/christian, charter or homeschool. They are no better and no worse than other children who's parents are readily involved in their education and upbringing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappo Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 The thing is the biggest problem with public school is a lot of parents expect the system to do everything and the parents don't get involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Not joking, there are homeschooling groups called "Heathen Homeschoolers" and stuff. LOL But yeah, they're not all religious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) Basically because they're better than everyone else and we all know it. :| Not to get into a hissy fight, but I really HATE that phraze, especially when used by children, weither it be private, catholic/christian, charter or homeschool. They are no better and no worse than other children who's parents are readily involved in their education and upbringing. I think Frannie was being sarcastic. I've been around the homeschooling block for many years and I have seen this back-and-forth many, many times. (Right here in fact.) It doesn't really do anyone any good. Obviously, I have a strong preference for homeschooling for my family-- it's working for us. When it stopped working for my eldest, we stopped homeschooling her and made a different choice. It isn't about whose choice is better, imho. It's about having the ability to make the choice. Parents should be free to choose for their children. The more choices available, the better for *everyone*. ETA: I think where we get all tangled up in arguments is when people assume that because I have made a different choice, I am making a judgment call about you. I'm not. Edited May 31, 2013 by homeschoolmom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 For my family, it's just what works for us. It obviously doesn't work and is not best for every family. People should be able to choose how they want to school their children, whether that be public school, private school, homeschooling, etc. There is definitely a purpose for public schools. It's just not what works for my family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I have never really noticed that home schoolers think they are better than other people. There are a TON of them at my parish some of them sing in the choir with me. They are very kind, considerate people. The only thing I have noticed is that they tend to be quiet...nothing wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Not to get into a hissy fight, but I really HATE that phraze, especially when used by children, weither it be private, catholic/christian, charter or homeschool. They are no better and no worse than other children who's parents are readily involved in their education and upbringing.Homeschoolmom was right: I was being sarcastic.I don't have any negative opinions of children who are homeschooled or their parents. The same is true for families who utilize the public school systems in their areas or who put down money for private school education.Whatever works, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 We have a large concentration of home school families in our area - we are one of them. That home school children are not socialized is a myth. Between home school co-ops, church groups, sports, constant field trips, and other activities home school children are very well socialized. I believe it is also a myth that home school families are all religious. There are a good number of secular home school families and groups. We have made a lot of family friends through home schooling that we otherwise never had in public or private schools. We just get our day over with twice as a fast and are 6 months to a year ahead of other forms of schooling. Right, they are socialized with a pre-selected set of individuals and families who fall roughly within an approved ideological, socio-economic et cetera spectrum. Which is why people think home-schooled kids are weird. Because it seems like they've grown up in a bubble. Because they have grown up in a bubble. That's not necessarily wrong and it doesn't make home schooled kids bad people or anything. But you can often tell when somebody has been home schooled. They're often really conservative and really religious, and seem to have trouble relating to people who don't fall within that category. And that's fine. If you want to try to ensure that your kids is really religious and conservative then that's fine. But the idea that there isn't a tradeoff to that is just silly and kind of immature. Which is the tone that often marks these articles. "Oh no, home schooled kids aren't different, unless by different you mean 10 gagillion times better than all those non-homeschooled kids lol lol lol!!!" And before anybody attacks me, no. Public/regular Catholic schools aren't a normative model. I'm not saying that anybody who wasn't home-schooled is better than anybody who was. I'm saying that each leaves a kid with different strengths and different weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I went to a Catholic grade and middle school. That gave me different strengths and weaknesses than somebody who went to High School. And it was evident because I had been in kind of a bubble. Not as much as home schooled kids, but a bubble all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicsAreKewl Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) And before anybody attacks me, no. Public/regular Catholic schools aren't a normative model. I'm not saying that anybody who wasn't home-schooled is better than anybody who was. I'm saying that each leaves a kid with different strengths and different weaknesses. Not by any means. Edited May 31, 2013 by CatholicsAreKewl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Flower Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Right, they are socialized with a pre-selected set of individuals and families who fall roughly within an approved ideological, socio-economic et cetera spectrum. Which is why people think home-schooled kids are weird. Because it seems like they've grown up in a bubble. Because they have grown up in a bubble. That's not necessarily wrong and it doesn't make home schooled kids bad people or anything. But you can often tell when somebody has been home schooled. They're often really conservative and really religious, and seem to have trouble relating to people who don't fall within that category. And that's fine. If you want to try to ensure that your kids is really religious and conservative then that's fine. But the idea that there isn't a tradeoff to that is just silly and kind of immature. Which is the tone that often marks these articles. "Oh no, home schooled kids aren't different, unless by different you mean 10 gagillion times better than all those non-homeschooled kids lol lol lol!!!" And before anybody attacks me, no. Public/regular Catholic schools aren't a normative model. I'm not saying that anybody who wasn't home-schooled is better than anybody who was. I'm saying that each leaves a kid with different strengths and different weaknesses. Sometimes bubbles are good things. I've been homeschooled most of my life. I think being sheltered has protected me a lot. But on the other hand, I don't think that it stops me from relating to other people. One of my best friends is a public school kid. Its true that most of the rest of my friends are homeschooled but I think its more because those are the girls I have taken classes with than because I can only make friends with other homeschoolers. At public school kids make their friends with the kids in their classes too. I think that everyone has a certain personality, and that being homeschooled or not doesn't really change your personality much. Maybe if you're homeschooled you will tend to be a little quieter. I know some really shy homeschoolers. However, I also know really shy public schoolers. Personally, I'm really outgoing and talk all the time. I'm homeschooled. I talk to everyone not just homeschoolers. I have a job, and I have made friends with the kids that I work with (who have HORRIBLE morals, but I can still relate to them and talk to them!) But I agree with you. Being homeschooled does not define who you are as a person, and therefore does not make you any better or worse than any other kid on planet. Some homeschoolers are great, some are jerks, some are stupid and never learned anything, and some are brilliant. Same with public school kids. I think it mostly depends on your parents, and how much work they put into your education (for both homeschoolers and public schoolers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Basically because they're better than everyone else and we all know it. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuturePriest Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Right, they are socialized with a pre-selected set of individuals and families who fall roughly within an approved ideological, socio-economic et cetera spectrum. Which is why people think home-schooled kids are weird. Because it seems like they've grown up in a bubble. Because they have grown up in a bubble. That's not necessarily wrong and it doesn't make home schooled kids bad people or anything. But you can often tell when somebody has been home schooled. They're often really conservative and really religious, and seem to have trouble relating to people who don't fall within that category. And that's fine. If you want to try to ensure that your kids is really religious and conservative then that's fine. But the idea that there isn't a tradeoff to that is just silly and kind of immature. Which is the tone that often marks these articles. "Oh no, home schooled kids aren't different, unless by different you mean 10 gagillion times better than all those non-homeschooled kids lol lol lol!!!" And before anybody attacks me, no. Public/regular Catholic schools aren't a normative model. I'm not saying that anybody who wasn't home-schooled is better than anybody who was. I'm saying that each leaves a kid with different strengths and different weaknesses. I have no issues relating to people that aren't home-schooled. I don't even know many other kids that are home-schooled, and I don't talk to them at all, really. Being home-schooled has had zero negative effects on how I'm able to relate and talk to people. It could just be because I'm a really outgoing person at heart, but I love talking to anyone and everyone, and I don't have any issues with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Lol, believe it or not, not all of the extracurricular activities that we do are with other homeschoolers. I'm in a theater troupe and have played in a soccer league where I was the only homeschooler for most of my childhood. There's a difference between being sheltered and being unaware. I appreciate my bubble. But I also appreciate my parents who have not shielded me from what the real world is like. And I've always hated that precedent that public highschool is an accurate representation of what the "real world" is like. Like, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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