Gay "marriage In Minnesota"

[homeschoolmom]

My daughter's Catholic HS has a new student who started this week. Apparently, at his old school, when the House passed the bill, all the teachers and students cheered. His parents pulled him out that day. At my daughter's school, when the bill passed, they all got together and prayed the Rosary.

[Chestertonian]

And that's why my kids go to Catholic school too.

[homeschoolmom]

And that's why my kids go to Catholic school too.

Unfortunately, the boy's old school was a Catholic school. :(

[Chestertonian]

Unfortunately, the boy's old school was a Catholic school. :(

 

That's seriously depressing.

[Winchester]

I see no reason to cheer or pray the rosary over a meaningless government permission slip. It has zero sacramental character. It's no more meaningful than any of their other useless slips of paper.

[Winchester]

I see no reason to cheer or pray the rosary over a meaningless government permission slip. It has zero sacramental character. It's no more meaningful than any of their other useless slips of paper.

[CrossCuT]

I see no reason to cheer or pray the rosary over a meaningless government permission slip. It has zero sacramental character. It's no more meaningful than any of their other useless slips of paper.

 

I have no props for this.

 

Why arent people up in arms about straight people getting married outside of the sacrament? Isnt that just as immoral? 

[Guest Raz]

I see no reason to cheer or pray the rosary over a meaningless government permission slip. It has zero sacramental character. It's no more meaningful than any of their other useless slips of paper.

 

 

I have no props for this.

 

Why arent people up in arms about straight people getting married outside of the sacrament? Isnt that just as immoral? 

 

[Nihil Obstat]

I have no props for this.

 

Why arent people up in arms about straight people getting married outside of the sacrament? Isnt that just as immoral? 

Not precisely. A heterosexual couple can still enter into a valid (albeit not sacramental) marriage. A homosexual couple by nature cannot do so. A homosexual sexual relationship is inherently immoral, and can never be made moral. A heterosexual sexual relationship may be immoral for external reasons, that they are not married for instance, but it is not an inherently disordered state of affairs.

[CrossCuT]

Is it immoral for heterosexuals to love each other without engaging in the sexual act?

[Nihil Obstat]

Is it immoral for heterosexuals to love each other without engaging in the sexual act?

Everyone is called to love everyone else. I think I know what you are getting at, but I am not a fan of the way you frame the question. :smile3:

[CrossCuT]

Woops, I dont know why i typed Heterosexual. I meant homosexual hahaha

[arfink]

I see no reason to cheer or pray the rosary over a meaningless government permission slip. It has zero sacramental character. It's no more meaningful than any of their other useless slips of paper.

 

I would agree with you, except that it enables the commission of grave abuses in the name of marriage equality.

 

The Pro-Choice movement always demands the Pro-Lifers explain away the tricky situation of abortion for women who have been raped, so I don't see why we can't ask pointed questions about abuses of same-sex-marriage, including adoption and mental problems for children raised by same sex couples.
 

Obviously not all abortions are needed because of rape, just as not all children raised by gay couples will come out horribly ruined. But it has happened, in both cases, and I fully expect proponents of gay marriage to pay the price of admission and explain what they will do to prevent that from happening again. So far I have had no explanation, only the non-explanation of "oh, that's very rare."

 

There are other problems I have with this very libertarian ideal of marriage, since most libertarians agree that parents should be required to do things like feed their children, and that the state has a responsibility to step in and prevent abuses like that from happening. So I do not think it follows that we must necessarily keep government hands out of marriage at all costs. I believe the stakes are probably higher in this case.

As for marriage just being a contract between consenting parties, we currently have made several kinds of contracts which the state refuses to enforce, such as slave contracts, working for less than a certain wage, people working in dangerous conditions. If we allow marriage solely on the grounds that it's a private contract, why aren't we ruling in favor of racist landlords?

[Nihil Obstat]

Woops, I dont know why i typed Heterosexual. I meant homosexual hahaha

I do think it would be wrong for a homosexual couple to actively entertain their desires, with or without sexual contact. The inclination itself is intrinsically disordered.

[Lil Red]

Does this mean that Minnesota is out for the meet-up?

 

:| was that on purpose?