Say Your Sorry!

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

May the peace that only Jesus Christ can give be with you all.

 

This post is about forgiveness and what scripture says on the matter.

So a letter in the local catholic newspaper got me going. The writer whom is also a priest said when the scripture says "to forgive 70 times 7 times" that it is saying to forgive infinite. I always thought 70 times 7 times was and understandable limit and that's why Jesus didn't say in this case that you must forgive everytime.  Here are some verses that may hint other wise (and sorry i don't have all the passage numbers.) Jesus says that "if your right hand causes you to sin,cut it off. For it is better to go into heaven with half your body than to go into hell whole."  And Luke 17:4 "If your brother does something wrong,rebuke him and, if he is sorry, forgive him. And if he wrongs you seven times a day and seven times comes back to you and says, "i'm sorry," you must forgive him. This particular verse says to me i don't have to forgive a person that isn't repentant for what they have done.

Are there exceptions to when Jesus says " forgive to be forgiven."

 

Onward christian souls.

Jesus iz LORD.

[Tab'le De'Bah-Rye]

So i was thinking upon this again and perhaps the whole cutting someone off is to allow us to pray earnestly for the person and forgive. Sometimes forgiveness takes time and distance perhaps, but than i assume it doesn't mean that someone cut off from our lives can't ever be re-attached. There is a verse written by st Paul that says something like " a branch can be cut from the vine and left to die on the ground,but God can re-attach it at any time."

 

Also i find it tough most times to rebuke people of there offences against me (because i begin to argue the point if the person retorts my rebuke and worse still yell and rage,and than it seems i am now the offender also,) therefore can expect no apology because the person perhaps has no idea what they have done. 

 

Also another thought. Are we in a position of authority to rebuke an assumed offence against GOD and not just offences against one personally. Or is that solely up to the cardinals,bishops and priests,or other church officials ?

[Papist]

We are called to forgive, PERIOD. There are no conditions for forgiveness. If you go, I forgive you if..., you are doing it wrong.   Doesn't mean you have to be or remain best of pals. Forgiving someone is more about yourself than the person you are forgiving. Forgiving someone that wronged you can be very therapeutic spiritually. And after forgiving, you do not bring the wrong back up to use it against the person. 

 

When it comes to saying "I am sorry", is on the same line as being more about you. Even if I was only 5% at fault and the other person was 95%, I still need to apologize for my 5%.  And that it a very tough thing to work through b/c it very likely that the person will take your apology as if the WHOLE thing was your fault.

[the171]

My sorry?

[Papist]

My sorry?

 

Transmundane Lane is a serious board.

Edited May 31, 2013 by Papist

[Papist]

[dominicansoul]

"I'm sorry" isn't very popular.  Way too much pride to admit you're wrong.  Way to much "one-up-manship."  Need to have the last word and "win."  Pretty ridiculous.  If only we knew how we hurt others AND ourselves with our stupid pride.

 

 

It's going to be terribly difficult when we are before the Judgment and Christ reminds us of all the people we've hurt in our lifetimes...