Tolerance

[4588686]

Thankfully countries like Iran don't have to deal with such issues, because according to ol' Mahmoud, they dont have "homos in Iran."

 

 

Right.  This school does have a better human rights record than Iran.  

Edited April 24, 2013 by Hasan

[Chestertonian]

Right.  This school does have a better human rights record than Iran.  

 

Can't say I blame you. I would have edited it too.

[Apotheoun]

I have worked at several Catholic schools and they all had a "morals clause" in their contracts, and I bet the school mentioned in the first post also has a section like that in their contracts. It is not the school's fault if a person fails to read the contract he is signing.

Edited April 24, 2013 by Apotheoun

[Winchester]

Right.  This school does have a better human rights record than Iran.  

 

It's not a human right to retain a job.

 

It's also not a human right to tell other people what they can own. Darn you, self-ownership!

Edited April 24, 2013 by Winchester

[4588686]

Can't say I blame you. I would have edited it too.

 

 

That the Catholic Church has historically had an even worse human rights record than the current Iranian regime isn't something I'm bashful about saying.  But it seemed like an unnecessary distraction.

[4588686]

It's not a human right to retain a job.

 

It's also not a human right to tell other people what they can own. Darn you, self-ownership!

 

 

I said that I agreed that the school had a right to fire her.  

[Chestertonian]

That the Catholic Church has historically had an even worse human rights record than the current Iranian regime isn't something I'm bashful about saying.  But it seemed like an unnecessary distraction.

 

So you're comparing two thousand years of history to a regime that's been in place since 1979? Unnecessary indeed.

Edited April 24, 2013 by Chestertonian

[Winchester]

I said that I agreed that the school had a right to fire her.  

 

I don't care what you said. I just like to say stuff.

[4588686]

So you're comparing two thousand years of history to a regime that's been in place since 1979?

 

 

Not really.  But if I wanted to I could and I'd be correct.  

[Chestertonian]

Not really.  But if I wanted to I could and I'd be correct.  

 

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[Guest Raz]

 

An integral part of the mission of a good Catholic school is to provide moral guidance and positive example to the children attending, and the teachers should be good models of Catholic morality. If a teacher or coach is publicly living a lifestyle contrary to Catholic morality, it compromises that mission.

 

How about a diocese that encourages moral guidance in the form of tolerance, forgiveness and understanding? Homosexuals exist. They always have, and always will. This diocese has taught the students of this school and people around the world that homosexuals deserve unfair treatment based on their sexual orientation. Is that really the most christian lesson they could have decided to teach?

[Guest Raz]

Knowing the Venerable Fulton Sheen's uncompromising devotion to Catholic moral teaching, I'm certain he'd applaud this school's decision.

 

Considering this incident showcases intolerance towards a person and not a principle, I'm going to have to disagree with you.

[Guest Raz]

The teacher's career was not "ruined"  she was fired from ONE school.  She did not loose her license to teach.  The school did not publicly condemn her teaching skill.

 

 

Are you implying that losing a job is no big deal? Especially in this economy?

 

Are you suggesting that losing her job after 19 years will not be a devastating event in her life?

 

Do you really believe that the best way to handle homosexuals is to simply cut them out of your life? Is that really the lesson that the children at that school should learn?

Edited April 25, 2013 by Raz

[Guest Raz]

A recently alumni said this in an interview about the incident and I think it's dead on.

 

"I think that if there is one thing that I got out of my education at Waterson it's to see God in everybody. So, I think by saying that she can't teach there because of her sexuality is just completely contradicting what we've been taught for those 4 years."

[Apotheoun]

People need to stop making disordered passions and desires into identifying characteristics of the human person. No one is gay; instead, some people are afflicted with homosexual desires and inclinations, which although not sinful per se, are - as the Church explains - "a more or less strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil; and thus the inclination itself must be seen as an objective disorder" [CDF Instruction Homosexualitatis Problema, no. 3]. If the teacher is living an objectively immoral lifestyle I see no other option but for the school to let her go.