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KnightofChrist

I love JPII, but I honestly think this is moving entirely too fast.

 

Fun Fact: Every Pope save for Benedict XVI and Francis since Vatican II are on the path to being declared a saint.

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mysisterisalittlesister

I love JPII, but I honestly think this is moving entirely too fast.

Just wondering, does it really matter?
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GeorgiiMichael

Fun Fact: Every Pope save for Benedict XVI and Francis since Vatican II are on the path to being declared a saint.

 

Even JPI?

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Just wondering, does it really matter?

 

 

yeah i think so...

 

 

I think it is important to look as clearly as possible at the life of one to be a saint.  I think this 'clear looking' is more easily and prudently done outside the span of a just few years after the death of him/her, through the lens of time.

 

Do I think it is impossible to look clearly into the life of a saint so soon after his/her death? Well, no i guess

 

Do I think objectivity can be maintained regardless of how soon after death the process begins?  Well, yes i guess.

 

Do I think that it is prudent to do so in both regards? No. I don't.

 

But then, they didn't ask me. LOL.

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The most concerning thing for me about fast canonizations of any saint is the popular/trendy/fad type mindset we have with many saints who we met or read or knew a lot about during our lifetime. Tons of people know JPII, have met JPII, have read his works, have been converted by his homilies, etc etc. To an extend it is trendy to think JPII is cool, holy, saintly, etc. That isn't to say that he is not all of those things, but I would much rather wait for his cause to be investigated after his memory has faded into history a bit and the hype has died down.

 

I would say the same about Benedict XVI, Bl. Teresa of Calcutta, and many others. It doesn't have to do with the sanctity of the person or authenticity of sainthood, but the assuredness that due process was taken rather than a quick canonization due to popularity or pressure from people who personally knew the individual.

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PhuturePriest

The most concerning thing for me about fast canonizations of any saint is the popular/trendy/fad type mindset we have with many saints who we met or read or knew a lot about during our lifetime. Tons of people know JPII, have met JPII, have read his works, have been converted by his homilies, etc etc. To an extend it is trendy to think JPII is cool, holy, saintly, etc. That isn't to say that he is not all of those things, but I would much rather wait for his cause to be investigated after his memory has faded into history a bit and the hype has died down.

 

I would say the same about Benedict XVI, Bl. Teresa of Calcutta, and many others. It doesn't have to do with the sanctity of the person or authenticity of sainthood, but the assuredness that due process was taken rather than a quick canonization due to popularity or pressure from people who personally knew the individual.

 

I don't really think this matters. Saint Anthony was the fastest canonized Saint in history, and he is also one of the most famous Saints in history. The thing to remember that it doesn't matter if the person is popular or not, or if the "hype" hasn't died down. A person is declared a Saint because the Church has infallibly said so. It doesn't matter if everyone at the time loves him or not. In Pope John Paul II's case, the hype won't die down for sixty years or more. He was a huge public figure that everyone knows. Even non-Catholics adore the man. He's not a hype that's going to die down in five years.

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GeorgiiMichael

Well, as someone who wasn't part of the JPII generation (not because I'm not the right age, but because I wasn't Catholic until 2 years ago), I do find him to be a saintly man. It might be a swift canonization, but I do think it is a justified cause.

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