Anna Posted May 28, 2004 Author Share Posted May 28, 2004 [quote name='Katholikos' date='May 27 2004, 05:47 PM'] Does anybody have a list of the 48 Congressmen who signed that infamous letter? Or know where I can get the list? JMJ Likos [/quote] That's the burning question!!! Who are these cowards? I want names. Only two are named in the report, as follows: "[b]Rep. Rosa L. DeLauro (Conn.) and Rep. Nick Lampson (Tex.) [/b]circulated the letter among the 73 Catholic Democrats in the House. It was not circulated among Republicans or in the Senate, because it arose from meetings that began last year among a small number of Catholic Democrats in the House who wanted to talk privately about faith and public service, DeLauro said. 'This was not about politics. It was about us and our church and our own faith," she said.'" Oh please. These peeps make me ill. It was about us and our church and our own faith...your own faith? Sure doesn't resemble Catholicism! Maybe you should rename it? Church of the Blood of the Innocents!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted May 28, 2004 Author Share Posted May 28, 2004 Got it! Rosa L. DeLauro Ed Pastor James P. McGovern Ciro D. Rodriguez Nick Lampson Raul M. Grijalva James P. Moran Silvestre Reyes Linda T. Sanchez Bill Pascrell, Jr. Bart Stupak Michael E. Capuano Betty McCollum Anna G. Eshoo Carolyn McCarthy John D. Dingell Peter A DeFazio Stephen F. Lynch Edward J. Markey Jose E. Serrano Madeleine Z. Bordallo Tim Ryan Lane Evans Hilda L. Solis Michael F. Doyle John B. Larson Maurice D. Hinchey Loretta Sanchez Mike Thompson Robert A. Brady Diane E. Watson Jim Langevin Joe Baca Charles A. Gonzalez Nydia M. Velazquez Martin T. Meehan William Lacy Clay Frank Pallone, Jr. George Miller Karen McCarthy Dennis A. Cardoza Xavier Becerra Grace F. Napolitano William D. Delahunt James L. Oberstar Luis V. Gutierrez Dennis J. Kucinich Nancy Pelosi To view the letter, click [url="http://britius.stblogs.org/archives/015378.html"]HERE[/url] :angry: There is also the opportunity to leave your personal comments at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasJis Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 The link to the Letter with signatures has links to each of the Representative's websites. Forget the lynching. We need to write letters to OUR representatives. Let's not just turn this into a Catholic thing because they've already shown that doens't mean anything. To reach these people so they may begin to understand, we have to take the Political approach because that is what they are looking at. We should see if any of these Representatives are from our State and write to them as a Citizen and Voter and explain to them what it means to be a Catholic Constituent. Catholics from other States they will ignore, Catholic voters from their District will make and impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted May 29, 2004 Author Share Posted May 29, 2004 Great idea, jasJis. They need to hear from John Q. Public that we think they're phoneys when they support things that are against their religion, then expect their church leaders to look the other way! They cannot politicize the Holy Eucharist. And they cannot have [i]abortion[/i] and the [u][b]Eucharist[/b][/u], too. Believe in one thing or the other, but you can't honestly expect us to accept that you believe in [i]both[/i]!!!! Pax Christi. <>< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 I just responded. As I said in my comment, pro-abortion "Catholic" politicians love to cop out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 [quote name='Anna' date='May 28 2004, 02:09 AM'] Got it! Rosa L. DeLauro Ed Pastor James P. McGovern Ciro D. Rodriguez Nick Lampson Raul M. Grijalva James P. Moran Silvestre Reyes Linda T. Sanchez Bill Pascrell, Jr. Bart Stupak Michael E. Capuano Betty McCollum Anna G. Eshoo Carolyn McCarthy John D. Dingell Peter A DeFazio Stephen F. Lynch Edward J. Markey Jose E. Serrano Madeleine Z. Bordallo Tim Ryan Lane Evans Hilda L. Solis Michael F. Doyle John B. Larson Maurice D. Hinchey Loretta Sanchez Mike Thompson Robert A. Brady Diane E. Watson Jim Langevin Joe Baca Charles A. Gonzalez Nydia M. Velazquez Martin T. Meehan William Lacy Clay Frank Pallone, Jr. George Miller Karen McCarthy Dennis A. Cardoza Xavier Becerra Grace F. Napolitano William D. Delahunt James L. Oberstar Luis V. Gutierrez Dennis J. Kucinich Nancy Pelosi To view the letter, click [url="http://britius.stblogs.org/archives/015378.html"]HERE[/url] :angry: There is also the opportunity to leave your personal comments at the end. [/quote] Now their names are all on one list. All the easier to excommunicate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted May 31, 2004 Author Share Posted May 31, 2004 Tru Dat!!! I think if you visit that website, you can click on those names and email those "Catholic" Congressmen! They need to hear from us. We need to defend Our Mother, the Church, from those who insult and mock her. And a good many do so from [i]within.[/i] Ready, set, go....Let 'em have it! :punch: :knockout: :pebcam: :squash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreepyCrawler Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 that makes me so mad. you have to be catholic to receive communion, right? but being catholic requires certain things. i could call myself white but it wouldn't be simply because i called myself that. it would requite that i had white skin. to be catholic means you believe and follow church teachings. it's so simple. why can't politicians figure it out? the bishops aren't politicizing the eucharist, they're just being vocal about what it means to be catholic. politicians are so dense. i love the bishop who wrote that response. he's my hero. short, sweet, and to the point. yeah for him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_bc Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 (edited) The way I understand this letter, the legislators are not demanding for themselves the right to receive the Eucharist while in sin. Rather, they are arguing to the bishops that withholding the Eucharist from certain politicians is not likely to further Catholic policies and legislation. From what I can tell, they are mainly discussing political strategy. In addition, some of them seem to feel that certain individuals within the Church are using it for political purposes that are not those of the Church itself, as seen from this quote in the MSNBC article: [quote]One of the signers [b]with a solidly antiabortion voting record[/b], Rep. Bart Stupak (Mich.), said in an interview that bishops "are making these statements thinking they're undermining the candidacy of John Kerry, when what they're really undermining is the Catholic church." Stupak added that he has been surprised by the partisanship of some bishops. "I've had some threaten not to give Communion to me, even though they don't know my position, just because I'm a Democrat," he said. "I've had cardinals refuse to shake my hand because I'm a Democrat, and then somebody whispers to them that, 'No, no, he's a good guy.' " [/quote] The name of the Church, and positions within it, have before been misused for political ends by individuals. Certainly, if these people want to be good Catholics, they are required to discuss their suspicions of such misuse with the people in question. Ps. That is not to say that I believe the Bishops are misusing their positions, just that if what the politicians wrote in the letter are their sincere beliefs, I can't see that they were wrong to send the letter. Edited June 5, 2004 by _bc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 [quote name='_bc' date='Jun 5 2004, 04:21 PM'] The way I understand this letter, the legislators are not demanding for themselves the right to receive the Eucharist while in sin. Rather, they are arguing to the bishops that withholding the Eucharist from certain politicians is not likely to further Catholic policies and legislation. From what I can tell, they are mainly discussing political strategy. In addition, some of them seem to feel that certain individuals within the Church are using it for political purposes that are not those of the Church itself, as seen from this quote in the MSNBC article: The name of the Church, and positions within it, have before been misused for political ends by individuals. Certainly, if these people want to be good Catholics, they are required to discuss their suspicions of such misuse with the people in question. Ps. That is not to say that I believe the Bishops are misusing their positions, just that if what the politicians wrote in the letter are their sincere beliefs, I can't see that they were wrong to send the letter. [/quote] I agree, _bc. I bet none of these politicians care about sin or hell in the least. Heck, how many of them even believe in sin or hell, I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeraMaria Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 [quote name='Anna' date='May 27 2004, 09:49 AM'] [url="http://www.hli.org/pres_statement_bishops.html"]http://www.hli.org/pres_statement_bishops.html[/url] [/quote] Wow. Awesome to read something like that for a change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 ok im gonna send a email to each and everyone of them, just to let them know, that they have no power or authority to tell the Bishops what to do. This makes me very mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeamFamily Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 [quote] Now their names are all on one list. All the easier to excommunicate them.[/quote] that just made my night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 ok,heres my letter, tell me what yall think. Dear Dissenting so called “Catholic” Politicians, excuse my sarcasm but a letter was recently written and sent to the Us Catholic Bishops, in regards to denying Holy Communion to pro-abortion politicians. First off I would like to remind you of the position(s) you are in and the position(s) the Catholic bishops are in. The Catholic Church has always been Pro-life and always will be. There is no way your going to change that. The bishops speak with a much higher authority than anyone of you. It is their job to tell us what’s wrong and sinful and what’s not wrong and sinful. To receive the one (Christ) who is Life, in a state of “Mortal Sin” is sacrilege, not only is that wrong, but even the scriptures warn us of what happens when you receive un-worthily. The Church teaches abortion is a horrible sin and abomination, if the Church teaches that it is a mortal sin to be pro-abortion or pro-death, then it is a mortal sin, there is nothing you can do to change that. We all have our own choices, yes we’ve heard it a million times, but when you are Catholic, you have one set of hands and that’s for the Church, you cannot be Pro-Abortion and Catholic at the same time, that hypocrisy, they do not fit together. There will be no great harm brought to the Church if they deny communion to pro-abortion politicians. But great harm will be brought to the souls who receive the Precious body of Christ in mortal sin. Do not be more American than Catholic, do not expect the Catholic Church to change it’s teachings to suit your fancies. The Scriptures tell us to “Obey our Leaders, that they keep watch over us” the scriptures tell us this: Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For any one who eats and drinks, not discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself. --1 Corinthians 11:27-29 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. Shall we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than He? -- 1 Corinthians 10:21-22 The bishop’s can and will deny communion to pro-abortion politicians, whether you all think it’s wrong or not. God Bless, A concerned Faithful lay person of the Holy Roman Catholic Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 although that Priest's, letter was pretty dope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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