beaverman Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/03/pope-francis-supported-civil-unions-as-cardinal/ Seriously? Can we even trust this? Can someone please explain Francis's position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roamin Catholic Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I didn't really read the whole article. But if I remember correctly, it was looking like gay marriage was going to pass easily and the Church's standpoint of no gay marriage was being ignored. So in a last ditch effort he made a pitch for civil unions as being the lessor of two evils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 you had me at ABC News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I don't see what would be so wrong if he did actually say those things. He's saying that no-way-no-how will the Church ever sanction gay marriage, but the government can do whatever it wants with its secular authority to grant civil unions because the Sacrament of Marriage and secular civil unions are not the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) edit: double post Edited March 27, 2013 by tardis ad astra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Bergoglio didn’t suggest endorsing homosexual civil unions in 2010, says confidant of new pope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 The document at the link below, which was issued by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith back in 2003, gives the Church's official position on homosexual unions: Considerations Regarding Proposals to Give Legal Recognition to Unions Between Homosexual Persons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I don't see what would be so wrong if he did actually say those things. He's saying that no-way-no-how will the Church ever sanction gay marriage, but the government can do whatever it wants with its secular authority to grant civil unions because the Sacrament of Marriage and secular civil unions are not the same thing. Every day, I seem to find more and more that the old accusations that the Vatican requires us to impose religious law on secular society are actually true. Especially when it makes claims like, "As experience has shown, the absence of sexual complementarity in these unions creates obstacles in the normal development of children who would be placed in the care of such persons" - nbvnnnnnnnnnnnnn,m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortify Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 We do not toast to homosexual unions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Every day, I seem to find more and more that the old accusations that the Vatican requires us to impose religious law on secular society are actually true. Especially when it makes claims like, "As experience has shown, the absence of sexual complementarity in these unions creates obstacles in the normal development of children who would be placed in the care of such persons" - nbvnnnnnnnnnnnnn,m EDIT: (Keyboard issue). If one of my Composition students used this arguments, I'd have to mark with something like, "Claims about experience need to be backed up with evidence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beati Pacifici Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) We do not toast to homosexual unions РуÑÑки "мем" захват! ÑмеющийÑÑ :hehe: Edited March 27, 2013 by Beati Pacifici Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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