FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Even a young person? A young person comes to you and says, "I've been raped." You sit on it and encourage THEM to have to say it AGAIN to someone who can actually HELP? Seriously? :ohno: Society is broken. Exactly. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Even a young person? A young person comes to you and says, "I've been raped." You sit on it and encourage THEM to have to say it AGAIN to someone who can actually HELP? Seriously? :ohno: Society is broken. Oh goodness no. I would finish out talk and call the authorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyAnn Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) Even a young person? A young person comes to you and says, "I've been raped." You sit on it and encourage THEM to have to say it AGAIN to someone who can actually HELP? Seriously? :ohno: Society is broken. They will have to say it if you report it anyway. Isn't it kinder to give them a chance to do it themselves, but of course be there for them as well? My opinion is very coloured by my own experiences. Edited March 26, 2013 by EmilyAnn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 They will have to say it if you report it anyway. Isn't it kinder to give them a chance to do it themselves, but of course be there for them as well? My opinion is very coloured by my own experiences.So again I'll throw the question back at you: how long is considered "kind" to give them a chance to report it themselves? How long do you wait once a young person has said "I was raped" to allow them to feel strength enough to go to authorities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 We absolutely have an obligation. 100%, no question about it. We do. I agree. Moreover, based upon a person's profession he may also be legally required to report abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyAnn Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 So again I'll throw the question back at you: how long is considered "kind" to give them a chance to report it themselves? How long do you wait once a young person has said "I was raped" to allow them to feel strength enough to go to authorities? I would say either they do it that day or I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I agree. Moreover, based upon a person's profession he may also be legally required to report abuse.Absolutely. But I think the bigger question is this: If you've no professional obligation to report, is there still a moral obligation. Your answer is yes, as is mine. It would seem, though, that others disagree. I would say either they do it that day or I would.This is probably an awful thing to ask, but how do you know the abused doesn't lie about making the report, simply so you won't. Often after the abused admits the abuse, they become afraid of the consequence of speaking. A lot of times that's because of threats made by their abuser, but sometimes they worry all on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 It is not a form of kindness to allow a minor child to remain in an abusive situation until he has to courage to report the crime to the authorities. The victim of the abuse may never gain the courage report what is happening to the proper authorities, and to allow him to remain in a potentially dangerous situation is never right or just. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dusk Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Report. People make too many excuses to not do things these days...to many what if's. There's no time for that....lives can be destroyed while people wait to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyAnn Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 This is probably an awful thing to ask, but how do you know the abused doesn't lie about making the report, simply so you won't. Often after the abused admits the abuse, they become afraid of the consequence of speaking. A lot of times that's because of threats made by their abuser, but sometimes they worry all on their own. That is very true. If it were within my ability, I would try and be with them. I'm just very aware of how third-party reporting can be ignored. My mom is a girl scout leader and she suspected one of her girls was being abused (she had a lot of odd bruises and when asked said she wasn't allowed to talk about it). She reported it, but without the girl coming forward there was very little they could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 . . . is there still a moral obligation. Your answer is yes, as is mine. It would seem, though, that others disagree. The story of Cain and Abel in the Church's exegetical tradition makes it clear that we all are our brother's keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
let_go_let_God Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Absolutely. But I think the bigger question is this: If you've no professional obligation to report, is there still a moral obligation. Your answer is yes, as is mine. It would seem, though, that others disagree. This is probably an awful thing to ask, but how do you know the abused doesn't lie about making the report, simply so you won't. Often after the abused admits the abuse, they become afraid of the consequence of speaking. A lot of times that's because of threats made by their abuser, but sometimes they worry all on their own. Precisely, however it is good to remember that if someone comes to you that trusts you with something of this nature, they are asking for help. That is very true. If it were within my ability, I would try and be with them. I'm just very aware of how third-party reporting can be ignored. My mom is a girl scout leader and she suspected one of her girls was being abused (she had a lot of odd bruises and when asked said she wasn't allowed to talk about it). She reported it, but without the girl coming forward there was very little they could do. While it is true that nothing can be done to stop abuse if the victim will not speak, there is at least a paper trail being formed that if this child were to ever speak up, there is past evidence to support further claims. God bless- LGLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 That is very true. If it were within my ability, I would try and be with them. I'm just very aware of how third-party reporting can be ignored. My mom is a girl scout leader and she suspected one of her girls was being abused (she had a lot of odd bruises and when asked said she wasn't allowed to talk about it). She reported it, but without the girl coming forward there was very little they could do.I'd rather report and know I did what I was supposed to than to assume the report would go unheard or unsubstantiated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To Jesus Through Mary Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 The reality is that the victim very very rarely has the strength and courage to report abuse. They have been groomed and conditioned for years most of the time to keep silent. There is a TON of guilt and shame that often accompany abuse. The odds of them getting a sudden burst of courage at the threat of someone else (and that is how they will likely view it, as a threat) is slim to nil. Those who are stronger, must stand up for those who are vulnerable. It is not just the Catholic thing to do, it is the human thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papist Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Whatever we are able to do to achieve justice, we must do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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